May 29, 201511 yr The SEC passed a new rule today saying any transfer that have committed domestic violence or sexual assault cannot transfer into the conference.
May 29, 201511 yr Author Does this mean convicted of assault? A conviction is not necessary. Also, I don't think "assault" by itself is on the list ...yet. Looks like the priority now is violence against women.
May 29, 201511 yr Does this mean convicted of assault? Who determines committed? Georgia's original proposed rule stated that no transfer could be accepted if he had previously "received discipline" for any such act. That means that no court would have to be involved and the mere fact of someone being dismissed from the team for an assault arrest would be enough to prevent transfer to an SEC school. HOWEVER... I don't know if that's the final rule that passed. Have a link, Clyde?
May 29, 201511 yr How about non-sexual assault, fraud, obstruction of justice, and the other of 100s of charges which exist? I am not trying to be cantankerous, just more so mocking our reactionary society. It is a tremendous gesture and it certainly seems to raise the bar for the conference, but if someone is convicted and pays their debt to society, I am not a fan of added justice. Now I am sure other conferences will follow the lead, and ultimately the their ability to be a contributing member of society will be even more hamstrung. I would leave the decision up to the schools.
May 29, 201511 yr How about non-sexual assault, fraud, obstruction of justice, and the other of 100s of charges which exist? I am not trying to be cantankerous, just more so mocking our reactionary society. It is a tremendous gesture and it certainly seems to raise the bar for the conference, but if someone is convicted and pays their debt to society, I am not a fan of added justice. Now I am sure other conferences will follow the lead, and ultimately the their ability to be a contributing member of society will be even more hamstrung. I would leave the decision up to the schools. The rule was proposed by Georgia in direct response to Nick Saban signing dismissed Georgia player Jonathan Taylor. This is less about hopping on a bandwagon than Georgia being upset that other schools in the league would sign their problem guys right after UGA dropped them. I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of this rule. Let's say all the other leagues adopt it. A dismissal stemming from an arrest is now all it takes to keep a kid out of major conference football? No fact-finding has to be done whatsoever? No trier of fact. No trier of law. Just a coach protecting the school's image and the guy is DONE. Want to do it for anyone who's been found guilty or pled out on such a charge? That's fine by me; the guy knows the consequences and has to deal with them. This seems a bridge too far.
May 29, 201511 yr The rule was proposed by Georgia in direct response to Nick Saban signing dismissed Georgia player Jonathan Taylor. This is less about hopping on a bandwagon than Georgia being upset that other schools in the league would sign their problem guys right after UGA dropped them. I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of this rule. Let's say all the other leagues adopt it. A dismissal stemming from an arrest is now all it takes to keep a kid out of major conference football? No fact-finding has to be done whatsoever? No trier of fact. No trier of law. Just a coach protecting the school's image and the guy is DONE. Want to do it for anyone who's been found guilty or pled out on such a charge? That's fine by me; the guy knows the consequences and has to deal with them. This seems a bridge too far. This too. Well said.
May 30, 201511 yr How about non-sexual assault, fraud, obstruction of justice, and the other of 100s of charges which exist? I am not trying to be cantankerous, just more so mocking our reactionary society. It is a tremendous gesture and it certainly seems to raise the bar for the conference, but if someone is convicted and pays their debt to society, I am not a fan of added justice. Now I am sure other conferences will follow the lead, and ultimately the their ability to be a contributing member of society will be even more hamstrung. I would leave the decision up to the schools. Yep. Completely PC move by the conference. Why not drugs, or beating up a male student, theft? They are all crimes.
May 30, 201511 yr I agree with bugs that the idea is a good gesture by the SEC, but without a conviction, I can't fully support this rule. Too much of a chance of someone who didn't really commit an act like this to be forced out of football forever.
June 2, 201511 yr Being charged and convicted are two different things. I would challenge the SEC to look at changing the rule. It doesn't take a lot to be charged with Domestic Violence. Also are we talking about including individuals that have had an EPO filed against them? If so that takes even less proof to do. I agree with others that SEC is doing a good thing, but the rule needs better clarification.
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