I've said it before and I'll say it again, girls' parents are the worst when it comes to sports. :angrybird7:

 

I've replaced all my comments with "nothing to see here, move along". As truly that is my opinion of this thread and should be no reflection on any particular player as I've expressed since the beginning. Thank you. Move along.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by Jayhawk95

We get it, you're a fast pitch expert, well versed in summer / travel ball and obviously a guy who likes to see stats back player lists. I find it ironic that you place such a great emphasis on stats, then walk that back when it comes to college coaches.

 

I don't really care what you know, who you know or how well versed you are in fast pitch. A guy starts a thread to talk about an upcoming sport and you blow it all out because you don't like it, we get it, you're way better qualified than any of the rest of us that read this.

 

Good luck in the upcoming season, whomever you back…I feel sorry for anyone who has to listen to your drivel while missing a good softball game.

 

I've replaced all my comments with "nothing to see here, move along". As truly that is my opinion of this thread and should be no reflection on any particular player as I've expressed since the beginning. Thank you. Move along.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by hoops5
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Guess I can't delete/edit all my comments past 30 min. So I finish with "move along, nothing to see here". But for those who actually asked the question, what do college coaches really want? How ironic that it was posted tonight on a softball thread on Facebook. Enjoy the read. I have no comments, not my opinion, just reposted from experts in the field who did the research.

Someone get there feelings hurt, look at the record the last five years.

I Apologize for the haste in comments as I did not realize I was in the presence of so many gifted and talented experts in the field of softball. I did not realize that to be an expert, merely to attend as many games as the above have, gives you "street cred" amongst the hoard. I did not realize that a pitcher should always be the best player in the region bar none, regardless if the #3 player was voted player of the year outright in the enquier and the fact that she is committed to play D1, not 2, not 3, not NAIA. What's that matter? I mean what are college coaches really looking for in the 9th or 10th region? Oh, you answered that already, they are not, because college coaches recruit at the highest level of summer travel and fall ball at national tournaments and look for players that compete at that level of intensity. The fact is that the #3 on your list has been a standout offensive and defensive player at many of these tournaments and hit and hit well against some of the best select pitchers in the country. tHAT is why she was recruited by a dozen d1, SEC, Big Ten and MAC coaches. But that is why those coaches recruit at those tourneys and not locally- most of the top talent is all in one place playing the other top talent. They don't want nor care about local yocal daddy ball or "all A"champs. Just more big fish in a very little pond. You are welcome to call Rachael Lawson, (head coach at uk for those that don't know, who knows #3 on your list personally... that coach is not looking for local talent, she recruits from California, Arizona and Texas for left handed slappers to put on her team. Look at the rosters of the Big 10, SEC, MAC. But hey, what do I know about softball, since I'm a fly by night admirer from the stands that doesn't go to all the games. I apologize, I bow down and will let the experts make the decisions on who's who of softball.

 

One thing I do know, most coaches at the HS level are teachers, teachers who are asked to coach because they get first dibs at it and it's a nice supplement to their pay. Now, when a school system cannot get a teacher to apply, they go out in the community. And by some stroke of luck, they may find those who actually have college or even professional backgrounds. But for some situations, it does fall in the hands of parents of pLayers for some reason, they have interest because their child plays, so like most parents, they get online, learn about the sport, get educated. and with a little bit of luck will start the wheels in motion putting pieces together with what they have to work with. But that in no way makes most of them experts. Watching lots of games makes one and expert no more so than going to church makes someone a good person. Lawn boy simply needs to stop drinking the ALL A catholic school koolaid and open his eyes to what real talent is out there... Again big fish small pond syndrome.

 

So again with this post, rank your teams, leave the players ranks out of it until the end of the year, and let their stats talk. Until then, give us neophytes a list of players in the region to look for, so that when we do attend a game, we may know who to look for, and why. Like attending a major league game,so we can get excited when "chapman" steps on the field, wondering if for that moment, we will see greatness. As for my bias of player #3 on your list, she's great in the fact of who she is, what she represents in the sport, her passion for he game , love for her team, teammates on her team or others. Ranks mean nothing to her......but boy seeing 4 HRs in one game and seeing the 5th hit just left of the foul pole (maybe 1 foot) for a state tying HRs record in one game, sure was impressive and I havnt seen anyone else do that in this area. PlaY the teams we play, open up your schedule and PLAY someone, not silver grove not bellvue.... Play someone then show those stats! Goodbye thread, I'm done. :thumb:

 

So are you ripping on Coffey or ripping on Lawnboy? Looks like a little of both to me. Do number 3 a favor and give it a rest. It was merely a discussion topic for those that follow fast pitch softball, nothing more nothing less. Comments like these and by others on here would have you believe that Highlands girls softball is the be all end all in the 9th region. Hopefully they can defend the title this year and make a longer run in the state tourney, but posts like these are going to put them in the same situation as all Simon Kenton sports, if you know what I mean.

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So are you ripping on Coffey or ripping on Lawnboy? Looks like a little of both to me. Do number 3 a favor and give it a rest. It was merely a discussion topic for those that follow fast pitch softball, nothing more nothing less. Comments like these and by others on here would have you believe that Highlands girls softball is the be all end all in the 9th region. Hopefully they can defend the title this year and make a longer run in the state tourney, but posts like these are going to put them in the same situation as all Simon Kenton sports, if you know what I mean.

 

Sounds like you want to start drama and throw my name in with Coach Coffey? Be very careful sir, have nothing of the upmost respect for him and my comments have nothing to do with him at all and you know it!!!

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Thank you, which means this thread is, and no need for it. The team listings are generalizations of who won it last year, who played in the region, who returns, etc. But players? Leave that alone until the end of the season. All it does is gets people's emotions geeked up and feelings hurt, especially the kids/girls who read this. You don't think players and parents of those players who didn't make this list are saying WTH? Season hasn't already started and were already crowning who's the best......

 

I Apologize for the haste in comments as I did not realize I was in the presence of so many gifted and talented experts in the field of softball. I did not realize that to be an expert, merely to attend as many games as the above have, gives you "street cred" amongst the hoard. I did not realize that a pitcher should always be the best player in the region bar none, regardless if the #3 player was voted player of the year outright in the enquier and the fact that she is committed to play D1, not 2, not 3, not NAIA. What's that matter? I mean what are college coaches really looking for in the 9th or 10th region? Oh, you answered that already, they are not, because college coaches recruit at the highest level of summer travel and fall ball at national tournaments and look for players that compete at that level of intensity. The fact is that the #3 on your list has been a standout offensive and defensive player at many of these tournaments and hit and hit well against some of the best select pitchers in the country. tHAT is why she was recruited by a dozen d1, SEC, Big Ten and MAC coaches. But that is why those coaches recruit at those tourneys and not locally- most of the top talent is all in one place playing the other top talent. They don't want nor care about local yocal daddy ball or "all A"champs. Just more big fish in a very little pond. You are welcome to call Rachael Lawson, (head coach at uk for those that don't know, who knows #3 on your list personally... that coach is not looking for local talent, she recruits from California, Arizona and Texas for left handed slappers to put on her team. Look at the rosters of the Big 10, SEC, MAC. But hey, what do I know about softball, since I'm a fly by night admirer from the stands that doesn't go to all the games. I apologize, I bow down and will let the experts make the decisions on who's who of softball.

 

One thing I do know, most coaches at the HS level are teachers, teachers who are asked to coach because they get first dibs at it and it's a nice supplement to their pay. Now, when a school system cannot get a teacher to apply, they go out in the community. And by some stroke of luck, they may find those who actually have college or even professional backgrounds. But for some situations, it does fall in the hands of parents of pLayers for some reason, they have interest because their child plays, so like most parents, they get online, learn about the sport, get educated. and with a little bit of luck will start the wheels in motion putting pieces together with what they have to work with. But that in no way makes most of them experts. Watching lots of games makes one and expert no more so than going to church makes someone a good person. Lawn boy simply needs to stop drinking the ALL A catholic school koolaid and open his eyes to what real talent is out there... Again big fish small pond syndrome.

 

So again with this post, rank your teams, leave the players ranks out of it until the end of the year, and let their stats talk. Until then, give us neophytes a list of players in the region to look for, so that when we do attend a game, we may know who to look for, and why. Like attending a major league game,so we can get excited when "chapman" steps on the field, wondering if for that moment, we will see greatness. As for my bias of player #3 on your list, she's great in the fact of who she is, what she represents in the sport, her passion for he game , love for her team, teammates on her team or others. Ranks mean nothing to her......but boy seeing 4 HRs in one game and seeing the 5th hit just left of the foul pole (maybe 1 foot) for a state tying HRs record in one game, sure was impressive and I havnt seen anyone else do that in this area. PlaY the teams we play, open up your schedule and PLAY someone, not silver grove not bellvue.... Play someone then show those stats! Goodbye thread, I'm done. :thumb:

 

Then neither of you know the comments I've made on other threads, if you actually have constructive critisiusum, then say it to me, but don't insult my intelligence with what you think is best for me, or my feelings being hurt. I've stood by my comments thick and thin, if you have an opinion about a player, better back it up with stats, because you are talking about them. As much as you guys like to dish it out, be careful, you might be saying it about the wrong kid. Your feelings or mine I could care less about as well, but those girls don't need to see it, or hear it from over zelious BGPers.

 

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Sounds like you want to start drama and throw my name in with Coach Coffey? Be very careful sir, have nothing of the upmost respect for him and my comments have nothing to do with him at all and you know it!!!

 

I would say that the drama didn't start until your talons came out and seemed to want us to believe that you were actually worried about making some girls & their parents feelings hurt because of one person's Top 10 list. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone is either losing sleep or waiting for Coach Lawson to knock at their door because of how LB ranked them!! But hey, since my kid was ranked #1 ....my check's in the mail Lawnboy!

 

Help me understand your multiple comments about "D1, not D2, not D3 or NAIA". Are they supposed to make girls that choose something other than the ONE AND ONLY D1 feel like they accomplished something? #1 should only be a player that commits D1, right? The others certainly couldn't be talented enough to earn that because they didn't commit D1!! Seeing how you are so concerned no one has hurt feelings, I figured maybe you would be willing to explain what division any girl commits to has to do with where she should rank in the little old 9th Region.

 

I wonder if Crystl Bustos ever cracked the Top 10?? Nah.........she only went to a community college!!

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I would say that the drama didn't start until your talons came out and seemed to want us to believe that you were actually worried about making some girls & their parents feelings hurt because of one person's Top 10 list. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone is either losing sleep or waiting for Coach Lawson to knock at their door because of how LB ranked them!! But hey, since my kid was ranked #1 ....my check's in the mail Lawnboy!

 

Help me understand your multiple comments about "D1, not D2, not D3 or NAIA". Are they supposed to make girls that choose something other than the ONE AND ONLY D1 feel like they accomplished something? #1 should only be a player that commits D1, right? The others certainly couldn't be talented enough to earn that because they didn't commit D1!! Seeing how you are so concerned no one has hurt feelings, I figured maybe you would be willing to explain what division any girl commits to has to do with where she should rank in the little old 9th Region.

 

I wonder if Crystl Bustos ever cracked the Top 10?? Nah.........she only went to a community college!!

 

Thank you, your the first who actually gave an argument and backed it up with information that makes sence. Your right, D1 is not the end all to end all, but glad you pointed that out. Many kids choose to go to certain colleges for many reasons, it's an honor and a great challenge for them to play at any level considering the work load they face when they get there. As I've clearly said, give me a list of who to look for by position, not a bias by LB on who he thinks is the best, because your comparing apples to oranges. And yes, I did throw it our there at first about #3 , and I made my point. LB opperates on gorilla war fair, throws things out there, waiting for those to bite and attack, sit back and says nothing. Guess I need to learn to ignore him, like most, read it, say nothing, and move along. Thank you, have a great year.

And as far as Crystal Bustos, no where in the world would you compare her to Jenny Finch. Crystal had her role, as did Jenny. Different roles, comparing the two is stupid, but yet LB ranks region 9 girls as a whole, not by position.

Well then...I just circled 4-27-15 on my calendar...should be interesting to say the least :thumb:

D1, D2 etc doesn't mean crap. Dallis Knotts is playing D3 does that mean she is a lesser player. I don't think you will find many coaches that would not love to have her on their team. She chose to play D3, did she have interest from D1 down yes she did. So don't put much stock in if a kid is D1 or NAIA they may have chosen to go to that college. List do not mean squat on here. If you take them to heart then you will be unhappy with just about every post on BGP. College coaches talk to a lot of players and the bigger D1 schools are not looking at our local kids, they are certainly using our kids to make money at their camps, so why don't we put more effort into getting Kentucky recognized as having quality players than we do worrying about what other people say about a players list.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by True blue (and gold)
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Not too shabby for the Softball thread. By the way I still cannot see grass!

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Thank you, your the first who actually gave an argument and backed it up with information that makes sence. Your right, D1 is not the end all to end all, but glad you pointed that out. Many kids choose to go to certain colleges for many reasons, it's an honor and a great challenge for them to play at any level considering the work load they face when they get there. As I've clearly said, give me a list of who to look for by position, not a bias by LB on who he thinks is the best, because your comparing apples to oranges. And yes, I did throw it our there at first about #3 , and I made my point. LB opperates on gorilla war fair, throws things out there, waiting for those to bite and attack, sit back and says nothing. Guess I need to learn to ignore him, like most, read it, say nothing, and move along. Thank you, have a great year.

 

So then college, MLB & the NFL have it all wrong, huh? There shouldn't be a Heisman winner or MLB or NFL Player of Year? They are position sports, as you say....everyone's position should get ranked, right? That's how the little ol' 9th region should be cause you can't compare apples to oranges, right?

 

I don't believe LB ever compared any of the girls directly to each other. I would assume that he ranked them based on what HE FELT they brought OVERALL to their respective teams. Ever watched pre-game shows Sunday afternoon or MLB network? Their analysts will each give you their OPINIONS and each one will have a different top 5/10/100....does that make any of them more right than someone else's? Nope because they are only one persons OPINION.

 

For having no dog in this fight, you sure did get your feathers ruffled pretty easy. Simmer down and take the list LB started and start watching some of these girls. You may learn a little bit about them & my guess is while watching them, you'll get the opportunity to see some girls that may impress you that weren't listed. When you have some 9th region softball knowledge come back & challenge LB with your own Top 10 or better yet..Top 20 list.

And as far as Crystal Bustos, no where in the world would you compare her to Jenny Finch. Crystal had her role, as did Jenny. Different roles, comparing the two is stupid, but yet LB ranks region 9 girls as a whole, not by position.

 

You don't want to go there, you think your pants are in a wad now..........