Former college basketball star?

 

Article says he played at Ohio Christian which (as far as I know) is an NCCAA school, so they have a very small following.

 

Agree with most of the comments, if he is not bothering anyone then let him be. I also think a Christian would not be allowed to pray in public. And he/she would have no argument since some people are so offended by Christianity these days.

Before I read the article, I already had in my mind that he was breaking out a prayer mat in the middle of everybody working out and making a big spectacle of it. Had that been the case, LA Fitness might have had a leg to stand on. After reading the article, I side with Fall...LA Fitness really dropped the ball here and I think they are gonna end up with a lot of egg on their face.

 

This was my first vision, as well. I would have had no problem with what is being described in the article. I suspect he'll get a nice paycheck.

I guess the larger issue is does anyone practicing any religion have a right to go inside any private business they want and practice their religion?

 

I say no.

 

Pray at home, at church, in your car, with your friends, etc. but not at someone's place of business.

 

Ultimately the Supreme Court of the United States is going to have to rule on individual prayer in private businesses.

I guess the larger issue is does anyone practicing any religion have a right to go inside any private business they want and practice their religion?

 

I say no.

 

Pray at home, at church, in your car, with your friends, etc. but not at someone's place of business.

 

Ultimately the Supreme Court of the United States is going to have to rule on individual prayer in private businesses.

 

He was standing quietly in a corner. How can they not allow that?

He was standing quietly in a corner. How can they not allow that?

 

One, we don't have both sides of the story and two this is a black and white issue that will take a lot of court action to decide.

We have always taught our boys they can pray anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them. I firmly believe this to be true. We do not have to pray out loud to be heard by God. We are not practicing anything we are praying to God. If you throw me out because I closed my eyes and prayed, no problem, I'll pray for you and take my business someplace else.

We have always taught our boys they can pray anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them. I firmly believe this to be true. We do not have to pray out loud to be heard by God. We are not practicing anything we are praying to God. If you throw me out because I closed my eyes and prayed, no problem, I'll pray for you and take my business someplace else.

 

I would like everyone to think about what you just said and replace the word pray with anything else and see what you come up with.

 

We have always taught our boys they can talk anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can rest anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can play anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can sleep anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can work anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can stand silently in a corner anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can go into any private business and do anything they want anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

I would like everyone to think about what you just said and replace the word pray with anything else and see what you come up with.

 

We have always taught our boys they can talk anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can rest anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can play anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can sleep anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can work anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can stand silently in a corner anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

We have always taught our boys they can go into any private business and do anything they want anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

 

Sorry, I guess I am missing your point. I didn't say anything else, I said pray.

Sorry, I guess I am missing your point. I didn't say anything else, I said pray.

 

I don't totally disagree with your premise that anyone should be able to pray anywhere, anytime but in the land of the free I do think privately owned businesses have the right to decide what is allowed on their private property. In other words on my point, I do not think we have an absolute right to do whatever we want, whenever we want on someone else's private property.

Private business owners do not always have a say... No smoking laws blow that premise away..

I don't totally disagree with your premise that anyone should be able to pray anywhere, anytime but in the land of the free I do think privately owned businesses have the right to decide what is allowed on their private property. In other words on my point, I do not think we have an absolute right to do whatever we want, whenever we want on someone else's private property.

 

So LA Fitness should be able to have a "no standing in silence" rule? Umm, what does everyone have to do then, be continuously making noise?

Private business owners do not always have a say... No smoking laws blow that premise away..

 

Excellent example that equally applies to private citizens giving us:

 

We have always taught our boys they can smoke cigarettes anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop them.

I don't totally disagree with your premise that anyone should be able to pray anywhere, anytime but in the land of the free I do think privately owned businesses have the right to decide what is allowed on their private property. In other words on my point, I do not think we have an absolute right to do whatever we want, whenever we want on someone else's private property.

 

So a private business should be allowed to refuse blacks? Or women? Or homosexuals? Or white people? Or Muslims? Or foreigners? Talk about a slippery slope...

So LA Fitness should be able to have a "no standing in silence" rule? Umm, what does everyone have to do then, be continuously making noise?

 

Again, obviously we do not have both sides of the story but to answer your question if anyone stands in silence for a few seconds in that type of setting it probably never becomes (nor should it) an issue but anything beyond a few seconds is subject to interpretation and potentially makes other customers uneasy, uncomfortable, etc. and that is apparently the issue LA acted on and it will be for the courts to decide.

 

And at the end of the day the issue the courts have to decide on is do we have an absolute right to do whatever we want, whenever we want on someone else's private property.

So a private business should be allowed to refuse blacks? Or women? Or homosexuals? Or white people? Or Muslims? Or foreigners? Talk about a slippery slope...

 

I have no idea what you are talking about now.

 

"What" not "Who"