October 5, 201411 yr Pacers/Colonels were the fiercest rivalry of the ABA and NBA back in those days, no reason it can't happen again. With the Indiana/Kentucky basketball rivalry in general (high school, college, whatever) I see no reason why a team in Indy would curb success of a team in Louisville. Obviously they won't pack the stands and sale out every night but few NBA teams do. If they can break even or be a little profitable that's all that will matter. Profit sharing will go a long way to help an expansion team like that out, especially after the new TV deal. If they get the right kind of players they could pull it off IMO (talking a couple UK/UL players such as fan favorites like MGK, Cousins, Dieng, etc.). Louisville is the 14th largest city in the US, but a team in Lville would pull fans from across the state. I usually to to Indy 2-3 times a year for games and Louisville would be way more convienent, I'm sure a lot of fans are the same. Bottom line is Kentucky loves basketball and this isn't the 70's, people enjoy entertainment in today's modern society. NBA is back to high popularity levels so they could at least pull it off. I thought that Louisville was somewhere in the mid-20s, counting Jefferson County.
October 5, 201411 yr 22,000+ tonight at the Yum. Saw on Twitter tonight that Game 5 of the NBA Finals this year had 18,000... Including ol' papa.:thumb:
October 5, 201411 yr Author I thought that Louisville was somewhere in the mid-20s' date=' counting Jefferson County.[/quote'] I saw something on Yahoo last year that stated that but I haven't looked at other stats. It was basically one of those slide shows they usually have on the homepage, like "15 biggest US cities" or "10 most beautiful places in America." One of those things. I just assumed it was accurate. One thing that is true I know for sure is that Louisville is one of the fastest growing cities. Whether that translates to people showing up for an NBA team I don't know, but I think they could make it work.
October 5, 201411 yr Louisville is 28th...List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
October 7, 201411 yr I thought that Louisville was somewhere in the mid-20s, counting Jefferson County. After the 2010 Census, if you counted the entire population of the area covered by the Louisville/Jefferson County Metro Government (which is the combined entirety of the whole county), it would have put Louisville at 16th largest city in the US. If Hamilton County and Cincinnati had done the same thing, it would have been 14th or 15th.
October 7, 201411 yr If you use the Census Bureau's "Combined Metropolitan Statistical Area" numbers, then Louisville falls 35th in that grouping at roughly 1.5 million. That puts us just smaller than Nashville and Jacksonville and just larger than Hartford and New Orleans.
October 7, 201411 yr Louisville is 28th...List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Meaningless stat, you have to search by DMA. That gives you a better picture of what they're dealing with. I could see Pittsburgh get a team. This thread title says is Louisville "still" a possibility, that would say they ever were. I've never bought it.
October 7, 201411 yr ....... Here is the rankings that matter to the folks counting dollars and cents: http://www.tvb.org/media/file/Nielsen_2014-2015_DMA_Ranks.pdf
October 7, 201411 yr ....... Here is another that would be of value, including the percentages of the 12+ population that are Hispanic and black: http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/docs/nielsen-audio/market_populations_and_rankings_2014.pdf
October 7, 201411 yr ....... Here is the rankings that matter to the folks counting dollars and cents: http://www.tvb.org/media/file/Nielsen_2014-2015_DMA_Ranks.pdf I don't think those numbers are directly accurate for what we're looking at either. For an example, you can bet that if Louisville had a team, the games would be televised in NKY and in Lexington, just like Cavaliers games are on in Columbus and Dayton. Now, that's true for all sorts of cities, but I just mean to say that the Nielsen market numbers do not directly reflect the television impact an NBA team would have in the region.
October 7, 201411 yr I don't think those numbers are directly accurate for what we're looking at either. For an example, you can bet that if Louisville had a team, the games would be televised in NKY and in Lexington, just like Cavaliers games are on in Columbus and Dayton. Now, that's true for all sorts of cities, but I just mean to say that the Nielsen market numbers do not directly reflect the television impact an NBA team would have in the region. I wasn't trying to show a reflection of economic impact, I was simply clarifying that if you are wanting to look at market size, population of city limits is meaningless. Use # of homes, # of 12+, or # of 18+ in the "market". I would also tell you that I've seen Pacers, Blue Jackets, and Cavs numbers for Cincinnati and they are microscopic, even when LeBron was there the first time. It would certainly impact the region, hypothetically (and I still give it nearly a 0% chance of happening), but the overlap in Cincy (including NKY) would be 2-3 teams fighting for dollars and exposure.
October 7, 201411 yr I wasn't trying to show a reflection of economic impact, I was simply clarifying that if you are wanting to look at market size, population of city limits is meaningless. Use # of homes, # of 12+, or # of 18+ in the "market". I would also tell you that I've seen Pacers, Blue Jackets, and Cavs numbers for Cincinnati and they are microscopic, even when LeBron was there the first time. It would certainly impact the region, hypothetically (and I still give it nearly a 0% chance of happening), but the overlap in Cincy (including NKY) would be 2-3 teams fighting for dollars and exposure. But again we're talking about $$$, which -- as we learned from the Big Ten Network scrambling to get on TV in Baltimore -- to a certain extent simply means the number of potential eyeballs.
October 7, 201411 yr But again we're talking about $$$, which -- as we learned from the Big Ten Network scrambling to get on TV in Baltimore -- to a certain extent simply means the number of potential eyeballs. I get it, all about Cable subscribers and pay TV fees. FSO Ohio wouldn't pick them up, so that is out. I assume FS South would, so there is that, but that would only deliver the 130,000 adults in NKY for this market. Radio clearance in Cincinnati / NKY would be nearly impossible, given the glut of College programs, so that would be unlikely (at least on a stick that would matter). No reason to fall down into this wormhole, it is incredibly unlikely.
October 7, 201411 yr No reason to fall down into this wormhole, it is incredibly unlikely. On that we agree, but unless the NBA dismisses the idea outright, there are a small but dedicated group of people in Louisville who are going to keep trying.
October 7, 201411 yr On that we agree, but unless the NBA dismisses the idea outright, there are a small but dedicated group of people in Louisville who are going to keep trying. Don Quixote would be mighty proud of them.
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