We tried to explain that to him last year when he was touting the entire senior class was getting DI looks etc. He just doesn't get it. My son got letters from DI schools, didn't get any offers, but he got letters and they all looked very similar to the one uk#1fan just posted. Just wait until his son is a JR in High School, he will be getting looks from 24 DI schools. Every letter or email is an offer according to some I believe.

 

Yep, they send out thousands of these things, they don't want to take a chance on missing anyone that may potentially be a D1 prospect.

As someone else pointed, letter not very individualized. Other than kid's name at the top, nothing personal about the letter at all.

 

The jersey is nice, but I'm guessing Purdue has a Photoshopper (making up a word here) that does this for a ton of "recruiting" letters.

 

Huge difference between on-campus and in-home visits and coaches coming to watch games and ... getting a letter that many other players have duplicates of (other than name on the top).

 

I hope the kid plays D-I. Not many people can say that. Even D-II and D-III and even NAIA are still good.

 

But letters, in the big scheme of recruiting, mean as much as putting 100-plus yards and a couple TDs on an overmatched winless team.

 

Two points:

 

"Mean as much as putting 100-plus yards and a couple TDs on an overmatched winless team."

 

1. The problem is in my opinion, competitive football is on a decline in Kentucky. Just look at the scores on any given friday. There are really only a few real down to the wire close games. Half of all the classes (1A...6A) have teams with losing records. Then you look at the mess in the districts and how they are aligned, lots of quality teams are left playing poor competition (Again its not the teams fault). That's why I believe Ky teams are more and more seeking teams to play from outside the state. That's also why we have a low number of D-1 recruits playing for elite college teams. Ky only has had a few teams ever ranked nationally (Mainly X & Trinity). We need more facilities like Core 6 and IMG, we need winter indoor 7 on 7 competitions (Go Hard Elite) that players can join to continue to hone their skills.

 

"Even D-II and D-III and even NAIA are still good."

 

Look everyone wants to play for a big time D-1 program. The problem is we and the media (News Paper..Twitter..Rivals..Scout) only talk about players going to D-1, making it sound like going to a winning DII, DIII or NAIA program is not success. That's why all the kids and parents are so focused on D-1. We should be celebrating every player that gets to play at the next level.

The problem is in my opinion, competitive football is on a decline in Kentucky.

 

85,

I would speculate that this has something to do with dwindling numbers of players in the smaller or less successful programs. Also with more and more focus on concussions, I think more and more kids (and parents) are pursuing other activities, like soccer, lacrosse and the like.

I talked to a guy in Lexington whose kids go to Paul Dunbar and he said there are 6 to 8 kids this year that could really help their football program, but they only play soccer now (Dunbar is the defending state soccer champs). Not the only reason, but food for thought...

88..I totally agree. I run a youth football league. Yes, parents have said as much. They are pursuing fall soccer and baseball over football. Concussions are on everyone's mind. In 10-15 years it could be Soccer we watch on friday night.

Justafan#85,

 

E'town and Meade did NOT have to play Breck. E'town is the only area team to play Fort Knox (granted FK beat E'town a few years ago, but that was EHS's ONLY winless season in school history, too).

 

While Breck and Meade may have a long-running history/border rival/feud, you could say the same thing for North Hardin-Knox (don't play) and Trinity/X and 16+ teams in Louisville (while they are both Catholic schools, what would Trinity gain by playing DeSales?).

 

Granted Indianapolis Marshall isn't the best team, but Central Hardin playing them is better than teeing off on Breck (who not self-respecting 4-A, 5-A, 6-A program should play non-district ... ever).

 

I know scheduling is NOT easy ... but it's not as difficult as some people make it out, either. If "They were our ONLY option" ... then you need to look harder.

 

Trinity went out of state to find good teams.

McCracken got a team from Mississippi to come up and play an epic game.

Central Hardin and Bullitt East have had some great games (when they had no rivalry at all before the past couple of years and rarely play each other in other sports except for maybe baseball).

Paducah Tilghman and John Hardin sought out Highlands, even though it is a two-hour plus drive for both schools (like 4 or 5 in PT's case). JH might have been overmatched by Highlands this year, but JH gave FTH a scare last year).

Bowling Green lost its streak to a really good East Tennessee team (McCallie) when it could have teed off on another SKY team it could pummel.

 

When teams are WILLING to go hours and play out-of-state team, taking several losses in the process, I lose respect for team who play overmatched teams much closer to home all in the name of "difficult scheduling."

Two points:

 

"Mean as much as putting 100-plus yards and a couple TDs on an overmatched winless team."

 

1. The problem is in my opinion, competitive football is on a decline in Kentucky. Just look at the scores on any given friday. There are really only a few real down to the wire close games. Half of all the classes (1A...6A) have teams with losing records. Then you look at the mess in the districts and how they are aligned, lots of quality teams are left playing poor competition (Again its not the teams fault). That's why I believe Ky teams are more and more seeking teams to play from outside the state. That's also why we have a low number of D-1 recruits playing for elite college teams. Ky only has had a few teams ever ranked nationally (Mainly X & Trinity). We need more facilities like Core 6 and IMG, we need winter indoor 7 on 7 competitions (Go Hard Elite) that players can join to continue to hone their skills.

 

"Even D-II and D-III and even NAIA are still good."

 

Look everyone wants to play for a big time D-1 program. The problem is we and the media (News Paper..Twitter..Rivals..Scout) only talk about players going to D-1, making it sound like going to a winning DII, DIII or NAIA program is not success. That's why all the kids and parents are so focused on D-1. We should be celebrating every player that gets to play at the next level.

 

From a statistical standpoint, that doesn't surprise me at all.

88..I totally agree. I run a youth football league. Yes, parents have said as much. They are pursuing fall soccer and baseball over football. Concussions are on everyone's mind. In 10-15 years it could be Soccer we watch on friday night.

 

Might as well move to Uruguay.

From a statistical standpoint, that doesn't surprise me at all.

 

 

Yup. Even in a "GOOD" year for KY HS football, 50 percent of ALL teams will be .500 or below. Statistically that has to happen (at least if it is Kentucky team vs. Kentucky team).

 

Not a valid argument at all about the status of competitive balance.

 

Throw-away line more than anything. Smoke and mirrors. Fifty percent of teams statewide being at or below .500 means NOTHING.

Other things:

 

The media is not going to make a big deal about D-2, D-3 and NAIA because there are a TON of them every year. If C-J was forced to cover "signings" for the other levels (here's a fun fact: you do not "SIGN" an athletic scholarship to play D-3 because D-3 is NOT ALLOWED to offer athletic scholarships).

 

Morehead State does not offer "football scholarships" either, so even though they are technically D-I, there's a huge difference (school size, conference affiliation, fan support, media coverage, and oh yeah, paying your school bills) between Morehead and Kentucky. Not apples and oranges. Not even apples and arachnids (nouns beginning with A). It's more like apples and unicorns.

 

If the C-J had to cover D-2, D-3 and NAIA signings, Jason Frakes would never go to a game, write a preview, write a feature or compile stats because there are a ton of them in Louisville alone.

 

NAIA football signings are a different breed, too. Campbellsville and Lindsey routinely have signing classes over 40, when NCAA D-I makes that impossible. More often than not, an NAIA football scholarship will leave kids OWING money, while NCAA D-I scholarships (especially in football and basketball, but not as much in baseball) are the quote unquote full ride.

 

Campbellsville signed a female/girl defensive back last year in football. Didn't make all-conference. Didn't even start for her own team.

 

There's a reason that even though the number of D-2, D-3 and NAIA schools dwarf the total number of D-I schools, the number of NFL players from D-I schools dwarf that combined for D-2/3/NAIA (same goes for MLB and NBA). High school/college/pro baseball scouting isn't near what it is for football, but the ratio still applies. Because more likely than not, D-I is where the talent is (even though sheer numbers would point to 2/3/NAIA).

 

Not all signings are the same.

They've never been.

They never will be.

CKSportsFan,

 

I see you are not a Meade County fan...LOL (That’s ok). However, I think I and 88 were talking about the competition level in ky, not win loss record or statistics of records. Yes I think anyone would understand that if 200 teams play 50% will be winners and 50% losers. But again we were talking about competition level and lopsided scores Examples- Male has scored 197 points compared to 28 scored by opponents. Scott Co is closer scored 261 points compared to 121 scored by opponents. Highlands scored 155 points compared to 53 scored by opponents. Johnson Central scored 189 points compared to 45 scored by opponents. Iroqois scored 187 points compared to 43 scored by opponents. Pulaski Co. scored 197 points compared to 33 scored by opponents. Scott scored 170 points compared to 35 scored by opponents. To your point Meade is not the only team teeing off on overmatched teams. The teams above accounted for 1,356 total point...gave up 358 points.

 

Trinity & X have been teeing off on teams for years they outmatched, but that isn’t a problem. What 17 or 19 state championships between them in the last 20 years..Cmon man!!!. I’m sure scheduling can be difficult, especially when you factor in drive times. No one wants to drive 4-5 hours and play. Other things to consider is the cost and logistics. Who wants to ride in a school bus 4-5 hours. With today's public budgets not all school systems are going to pay for charter buses. Not mention most of the time the traveling team loses.

 

Other things:

No one said D-1 wasn’t a big deal, it is!!!, just that we should celebrate any student-athlete continuing their education and playing a sport they love. The rest of your points fall into the category of “No Da”

Edited September 23, 201412 yr by Justafan#85

Ok were talking about schools that have 1 player carrying the ball whole game.Well i've been following Roberto London & DeAndre pleasant from Scoot high school in taylor mill they share the ball alot both plearyers are doing just about what any top 5 player is doing by himself. With that been said think if it was just one (do math lol)

Ok were talking about schools that have 1 player carrying the ball whole game.Well i've been following Roberto London & DeAndre pleasant from Scoot high school in taylor mill they share the ball alot both plearyers are doing just about what any top 5 player is doing by himself. With that been said think if it was just one (do math lol)

 

They've also done it against bad competition. Both are great runners, don't get me wrong. The kids are good. Just not top 5 in the state good.

5'10 190ish only a Junior. UK and Purdue have contacted him I seen this on twitter. Pretty awesome stuff!

Roberto Londondo do yo homework.

After last night he's on track for a 1,700 yard rushing regular season whew! Not to mention all of the other TDs he's accounted for with this Wildcat scheme they've been running... do we have a new Mr. Football challenger in our midst???!! If someone has his total stats now so far please post, if not I will try and put them together.

Who else on team who they play kids you want even hear him next level

Edited September 25, 201411 yr by Randy Parker

They've also done it against bad competition. Both are great runners, don't get me wrong. The kids are good. Just not top 5 in the state good.

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