How is a cyclist staying in the middle of the lane on a busy street, and not using the provided bike lane, a defense mechanism?

 

That I would call an exception. Are you suggesting every cyclist does this? Only time I've ever seen it is if they're needing to cut across traffic to turn left somewhere. Most cyclists are just trying to stay as far the hell away from cars as possible, which is a wise survival choice given the mass and power differential.

Incorrect. Paint-drying is more entertaining than preseason football.

 

It's occasionally fun to check out rookies and see who might have an impact. I'd normally never watch preseason football, but I'm planning on camping out at a barstool at 11 pm on Friday to check out Teddy Bridgewater taking his first snaps as a Viking.

That I would call an exception. Are you suggesting every cyclist does this? Only time I've ever seen it is if they're needing to cut across traffic to turn left somewhere. Most cyclists are just trying to stay as far the hell away from cars as possible, which is a wise survival choice given the mass and power differential.

 

See it at least 2-3 times a week out where I live. Obviously not every cyclist does, but I see it quite often. Boggles my mind.

Whiners

How is a cyclist staying in the middle of the lane on a busy street, and not using the provided bike lane, a defense mechanism?

For the record, there is nothing that says a cyclist has to use the bike lane. I would agree, that they should when provided --- IF that bike lane is safe.

 

For example, here in Hardin County they built a new road connecting Elizabethtown to Radcliff called Patriot Parkway. They added a bike lane. That thing is insanely unsafe. It is absolutely littered with debris. I am not going to bike that road, but if I were, I'm getting in the main lane because it's a) the safer choice and b) well within my rights.

 

Also, I will freely admit that I do NOT hug the side of the road. I've had cars pass by within an inch of hitting me while doing that too many times --- typically while another car is coming towards them in an attempt to make the pass in one lane. I don't ride in the middle of the lane, but I am to the far left of the right 1/3 of the lane (the best way I can describe it, a picture would probably work better). That way when a car wants to pass, it needs to get all the way over as they would for any motorized vehicle.

 

Call me what you want, but I am making sure I am safe.

 

Final point, yes there are terrible cyclist who give us all a bad name, but the number of drivers who have zero disregard/understanding for cyclist safety far exceeds those terrible cyclist.

That I would call an exception. Are you suggesting every cyclist does this? Only time I've ever seen it is if they're needing to cut across traffic to turn left somewhere. Most cyclists are just trying to stay as far the hell away from cars as possible, which is a wise survival choice given the mass and power differential.

This. A good ride is one where I encounter few motorist. I need to borrow a GoPro and wear it for a ride one time so you can see just how bad it is.

 

This isn't including the weekly cussings or "get on the sidewalks"...

This reminds me:

 

Prospect - all of it. Rudest group of folks I've ever encountered.

Incorrect. Paint-drying is more entertaining than preseason football.

 

It's the worst. I refuse to watch.

I gotta be honest Former... I hate when bicycle riders are in the road, period. The worst is the country back roads around here, so dangerous.

For the record, there is nothing that says a cyclist has to use the bike lane. I would agree, that they should when provided --- IF that bike lane is safe.

 

For example, here in Hardin County they built a new road connecting Elizabethtown to Radcliff called Patriot Parkway. They added a bike lane. That thing is insanely unsafe. It is absolutely littered with debris. I am not going to bike that road, but if I were, I'm getting in the main lane because it's a) the safer choice and b) well within my rights.

 

Also, I will freely admit that I do NOT hug the side of the road. I've had cars pass by within an inch of hitting me while doing that too many times --- typically while another car is coming towards them in an attempt to make the pass in one lane. I don't ride in the middle of the lane, but I am to the far left of the right 1/3 of the lane (the best way I can describe it, a picture would probably work better). That way when a car wants to pass, it needs to get all the way over as they would for any motorized vehicle.

 

Call me what you want, but I am making sure I am safe.

 

Final point, yes there are terrible cyclist who give us all a bad name, but the number of drivers who have zero disregard/understanding for cyclist safety far exceeds those terrible cyclist.

 

It's a shame you left the city when you did. They're doing amazing things with bike lanes here in town now. There are people using them every morning when I go downtown for work. Once they get a few more in place, it will be REALLY easy to navigate your way from the Highlands or Germantown or Clifton or Crescent Hill to downtown and back almost without ever having to ride down a street without a wide bike lane.

Like nursing home old. Like I said, I don't hate them, old people just scare me. Always have, no idea why. :idunno: :lol2:

 

Because....some day.....:scared:

Most city planners (although I don't personally know a single one). And probably I am blaming them for our poor city planning when it is really our fault and our politician's fault, but:

 

It disappoints me how we develop every square inch of land without consideration of the quality of life. We spent millions on New Cirlce road in the North End of Lexington and it is more dangerous and there are no accomodations for bikers or walkers, but the greenbelt median was taken out; we develop subdivisions with no common greenspace or greenbelts. (In Denver and surrounding towns there are laws that require neighborhood greenbelts and common space with access from properties - great law). Zoning completely seems to be at the whim of what person with money wants what property designated for what purpose. We allow development for an industrial park when it is clear there is no infrastructure..roads, etc. to support it. I can go on..:taz:

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