Name them tiger. I'd be suprised.

I know more coaches than most people, and I don't think it does.

Most parents have jobs don't they?....and lives ????:dancingpa

Most parents have jobs don't they?....and lives ????:dancingpa

Jobs? Yea. Lives? sometimes you wonder.

At HHS, The coaches hold a pre-season meeting with the parents. Simply stated: No matter what the situation...THE BEST PLAYER PLAYS. No matter the grade or parent tie to the community. Now, that being said, the coaches continually evaluate the talent at each spot thoughout the spring-summer-fall and the "best" may change. Especially in regard to the style of play an opponent shows. Dale encourages communication from the parents...but it very well understood that the final decisions are HIS....with major input from position coaches. I'm sure Willie does the same thing! It seems to work !

 

Interesting philosophy. In basketball what if your best players are all forwards and centers and not guards? What do you do then? What happens if your most talented/best player is the kid who does not work hard or repeatedly gets in trouble in school? What happens if one of the most talented kids is selfish and does not make the players around him better? I think most coaches would prefer to play the 5 BEST PLAYERS, who wouldn't? But what if the 5 BEST PLAYERS do not make for the BEST TEAM, in the opinion of the coaches who work with them everyday and have been coaching for over 10 years? This is where the trouble with parents occur!

Farmboy, It sounds to me that you are saying that any parent who complains about the coach, no matter what actions the coach has displayed is the problem.

 

Maybe some parents are tired of the kids being humiliated on the floor, kids being grabbed by the coach during the game, having the coach raise his hands in the locker room, plus also telling the kids after away games that they cannot talk to their parents and if they do, then they will pay the price.

 

With the actions I described above, it doesn't sound so one sided in favor of the coach all the time, now does it?

 

I agree with Farmboy on this one. If a coach is that bad, then the proper procedures should be followed to rectify the situation. Anything else, in particular in public, would be embarassing to the player and teach the wrong lesson. I do agree that coaches who do the things you describe should not even be coaching. But it has to be dealt with in the right way. Never sink to the level of those who are scraping the bottom of the barrel!

 

I have seen parents go nuts at a game. Sometimes at the coach, sometimes at the officials, sometimes at kids! This is wrong and doesn't teach the right lesson. Use this as a life learning experience that they will remember. I had a coach in high school who was horrible and as much as I wanted to blast him (as did my father), I was taught to show respect, even though this coach showed did not reciprocate the gesture. After the season, the situation was dealt with appropriately and not in a public forum. As much as I disliked this coaches actions, it would have been embarassing to have my father dealing with this in a public manner.

Interesting philosophy. In basketball what if your best players are all forwards and centers and not guards? What do you do then? What happens if your most talented/best player is the kid who does not work hard or repeatedly gets in trouble in school? What happens if one of the most talented kids is selfish and does not make the players around him better? I think most coaches would prefer to play the 5 BEST PLAYERS, who wouldn't? But what if the 5 BEST PLAYERS do not make for the BEST TEAM, in the opinion of the coaches who work with them everyday and have been coaching for over 10 years? This is where the trouble with parents occur!

The best PLAYER plays...not the best TALENT! As for some of your scenarios..Villannova uses a 4 guard set extensively this year....run a triangle offense with a "point" forward...in other words, a coach will have to be creative and not force feed players into a "set" style... adjust,adapt, overcome!!

Interesting philosophy. In basketball what if your best players are all forwards and centers and not guards? What do you do then? What happens if your most talented/best player is the kid who does not work hard or repeatedly gets in trouble in school? What happens if one of the most talented kids is selfish and does not make the players around him better? I think most coaches would prefer to play the 5 BEST PLAYERS, who wouldn't? But what if the 5 BEST PLAYERS do not make for the BEST TEAM, in the opinion of the coaches who work with them everyday and have been coaching for over 10 years? This is where the trouble with parents occur!

For one, "best" is by position. Secondly if a kid doesn't work hard or is a problem in other areas, he is not the "best". Could be most talented, but not best. The practice of playing the best is presented to the parents and players for one reason. Do not take for granted, because you are an upperclassman, or your daddy was the star halfback( sorry point guard) years ago, that you are guarranteed anything. The "best play".

Parents filing grievances.

Parents acting like idiots in the stands.

Parents living through their sons/daughters lives.

Parents going behind coaches backs to athletic directors and administration.

 

This whole parent problem is getting worse. It's ridiculous! Ryle's superintendent should be ashamed of himself and embarrassed. This is why coaches get out of the business. Parent problems are the main reason we have seen some great coaches leave the last few years. This is the main reason why most coaches don't want to have any relationship with the parents. They want close relationships with the players and could care less what the parents say or do.

 

You forgot;

Parents trying to out coach the coach from the stands. Every parent tries to do this. As well as trying to refree the game. Guilty as charged.:devil:

There are bad coaches and bad parents. There are also good coaches and good parents. Most parents are going to do what they believe is in the best interest of their child. Most coaches are going to do what they believe will protect their job or serve their own interests.

 

These observations are fact. Given these facts, the coach must find a way to win to keep his job. In general, a smart coach will win over the parents before he wins over the player. Once a coach wins over a parent, the player has no choice except to perform becaused he gets pushed to work hard both at home and on the field. Many times a coach has to make decisions regarding parents just as he does players. There is no way around it. Choices have to be made and the chips have to fall where they may. Any coach that says he has not made decisions based on political influence or family connections is probably not telling the truth. A smart coach will make these decisions with his future in mind. A smart parent will use his influence to help his child in anyway he can. If things are obviously not going right for your child, then as a good parent you will rectify the situation or move your child to another program. I see no problem in either case as long as kids are allowed to go to school anywhere they want.

 

When the state gets involved with transfer restrictions, there are inevitably going to be problems. A coach should not want to coach a kid that does not want to play for him and vice versa. The problem occurs when coaches decide that if a certain kid does not want to participate in said coaches program he should not participate anywhere. As for the real world, nobody should keep a job or career that they hate. Life is too short to waste just as the high high school sports experience is too short too waste.