July 15, 201412 yr This thread triggered a question: http://bluegrasspreps.com/bluegrasspreps-coms-break/ky-drivers-license-280379.html Under the Real ID Act of 2005, tougher identification standards will go into effect for "restricted areas" in "all federal facilities," and for nuclear power plants. In January, the rules will apply to "semi-restricted" areas of federal facilities, with the air travel mandate scheduled to go into effect "no sooner than 2016." So you will need a 'Real ID' to do basic thingsin many aspects of life. If the need for 'Real ID' is so prevelent why not make it required for elections involving Federal offices? I am not sure what would qualify as a 'semi-restricted' area but I know my polling place is at a Federal Veterans center that to you have to go through locked door to get to. Access is via receptionist 'buzzing' you in. From other thread: "... but people trying to get into the Federal Courthouse in Louisville to get up to the bankruptcy court could be a complete mess if this isn't sorted out by then. " So are all people - drivers, non-drivers, poor, etc. going to need this ID or risk not being able to access some government functions? Will the use of a 'national ID' expand beyond Federal buildings to state and local government areas? After all, with access to nationwide database it makes use much more practical. If so, does this resolve the voter-ID debate? Does the polling place just become another place where the Real ID is required?
July 16, 201412 yr Make it easy to obtain. Make it free. No issue for me. But doesn't it disenfranchise poor voters, that's what we keep hearing? FWIW I agree with you!
July 16, 201412 yr But doesn't it disenfranchise poor voters, that's what we keep hearing? FWIW I agree with you! Even being a pretty staunch democrat, I don't get the issue with requiring ID's to vote. I've never met anyone in my life that hasn't had some form of ID. There are so many things you need to have an ID for, that it just seems silly that needing one to vote is such a problem.
July 16, 201412 yr Even being a pretty staunch democrat, I don't get the issue with requiring ID's to vote. I've never met anyone in my life that hasn't had some form of ID. There are so many things you need to have an ID for, that it just seems silly that needing one to vote is such a problem.So your the one, I heard there was a Democrat out their with common sense on this matter. :lol2:
July 16, 201412 yr So your the one, I heard there was a Democrat out their with common sense on this matter. :lol2: No issue with IDs for voting in principle. Serious problem with the way it's been done in several places.
July 16, 201412 yr So your the one, I heard there was a Democrat out their with common sense on this matter. :lol2: I think there are 5 or 6 of us in the state of Kentucky. I'm actually pretty moderate. Those on the far left scare me as much as those on the far right.
July 16, 201412 yr No issue with IDs for voting in principle. Serious problem with the way it's been done in several places. What issues do you have problems with?
July 16, 201412 yr What issues do you have problems with? The effect of the laws -- such as Pennsylvania's -- is unduly burdensome to something that's a pretty explicit right in the Constitution. Don't make the law apply to the next election; make it apply to the elections starting in 2016. Give people time to obtain proper voter ID. Make the process easier. Right now it can often be long drives to wait all day at the DMV in some states. As long as the ID is free, easy to obtain, and doesn't restrict perfectly legal voters from voting... I can deal with it. I still say it's a solution without a problem, but I'll deal with it.
July 16, 201412 yr The effect of the laws -- such as Pennsylvania's -- is unduly burdensome to something that's a pretty explicit right in the Constitution. Don't make the law apply to the next election; make it apply to the elections starting in 2016. Give people time to obtain proper voter ID. Make the process easier. Right now it can often be long drives to wait all day at the DMV in some states. As long as the ID is free, easy to obtain, and doesn't restrict perfectly legal voters from voting... I can deal with it. I still say it's a solution without a problem, but I'll deal with it. I agree that any law that is put in place should give people time...but is it not already the law to show ID when you vote? I do every time I vote.
July 16, 201412 yr I agree that any law that is put in place should give people time...but is it not already the law to show ID when you vote? I do every time I vote. Depends on the state. I show ID as well... but I have one, both to be allowed to drive and another in order to come and go from these United States should I so choose, which makes that a pretty easy process.
July 20, 201412 yr I agree that any law that is put in place should give people time...but is it not already the law to show ID when you vote? I do every time I vote. No. In KY, if the polling workers recognize you, you do not have to show ID.
July 20, 201412 yr What about absentee ballots? Since no ID could be shown when voting, do we do away with them?
July 20, 201412 yr Author What about absentee ballots? Since no ID could be shown when voting, do we do away with them? Actually, when done correctly, absentee is a solid anti-fraud way to vote. And its a valid way for all those without ID to vote. Kentucky has solid anti-fraud methods in place. Absentees show in in the rolls on election day to indicate that someone has already voted and avoid a double vote. Contract that with the woman from Ohio whose daughter voted both absentee and in person in the youtube video.
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