Is there any other way to describe our Federal government after hearing this testimony?

 

For me you can add disappointing. I know we are not perfect, that we can look at our history and see mistakes. You would think that after looking at that history we would not repeat such mistakes regarding our freedoms. But I guess there are always going to be power hungry individuals who are more interested in gaining power, than learning from history and protecting freedoms.

Did you see representative Gowdy's testimony today. I got chills.

Did you see representative Gowdy's testimony today. I got chills.

 

This?

 

Watch Gowdy Bring the Pain: Congressman Blasts Obama's Claim 'Not A Smidgen of Corruption' in IRS | Independent Journal Review

This?

 

Watch Gowdy Bring the Pain: Congressman Blasts Obama's Claim 'Not A Smidgen of Corruption' in IRS | Independent Journal Review

 

Yep. Gowdy is the best Rep in congress to watch in these hearings. You can tell he was a former prosecutor , he so prepared and passionate.

Well, I don't know about the rest of it, and there sure seems to have been some "targeting" going on here and some misdoings by the government no doubt, but let me speak specifically about her comments about OSHA...since that is who I work for on the state level, KY being a state plan state.

 

There are several different ways a company can be "inspected". How her company came about on the inspection list I don't know, but if there was an accident at the site that resulted in an injury and hospital stay, or a complaint by an employee was registered and found to be "of substance", then an inspection is initiated almost always. Don't know if that happened here, but very possible since these type inspections are higher on the priority list and keep the compliance guys busy. They could have also just popped up on the general scheduled inspection list, or been part of a specific industry targeted outreach program, who knows.

 

Now, as to her comment that "nothing serious or of substance" was found during the inspection, yet they were still fined $20,000...sorry, I don't believe that one iota. She's either telling a bald face lie about that particular issue or she is severely straying from the truth. I'd sure like to see that inspection report and see what was cited and what the penalties, if any, were actually for.

^ Interesting perspective.

 

And forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean to be "a state plan state"?

^ Interesting perspective.

 

And forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean to be "a state plan state"?

 

Each state (normally, there are extenuating circumstances at times) has a choice as who operates the OSH program in their state...either the federal government runs it or the state can have it's own program, "at least as effective as" the Federal program. KY decided at the inception of OSHA in 1972 to run it's own program, thus being considered a "state plan" state. I believe the breakdown is around 24 states that run their own programs. TN and IN both are state plan state, and OH and IL are both fed states. I'm a state employee. Someone who works for OSHA in IL is a federal employee...and MUCH better paid I might add. State plan states can also add to federally mandated standards, and make the standard "stricter" if they so chose, just can't make it weaker or "less strict". For instance, in general industry the trigger height for fall protection is 4 feet. KY, at one time, if it wanted to could have decided that 4 feet wasn't good enough, that 3 feet was better and made that a state specific rule (they didn't, just an example). However the state legislature evidently several years ago made it so that any changes like that became almost impossible to make. There are some other differences also, like how OSHA consultation works in a state plan and a federal state. As backward as KY is/can be viewed by the "outside" world, believe me...we have a world class consultation group and are 2nd to none in how we operate and how we help employers in the state of KY. It's just a shame that the general public will never know that.

Well, I don't know about the rest of it, and there sure seems to have been some "targeting" going on here and some misdoings by the government no doubt, but let me speak specifically about her comments about OSHA...since that is who I work for on the state level, KY being a state plan state.

 

There are several different ways a company can be "inspected". How her company came about on the inspection list I don't know, but if there was an accident at the site that resulted in an injury and hospital stay, or a complaint by an employee was registered and found to be "of substance", then an inspection is initiated almost always. Don't know if that happened here, but very possible since these type inspections are higher on the priority list and keep the compliance guys busy. They could have also just popped up on the general scheduled inspection list, or been part of a specific industry targeted outreach program, who knows.

 

Now, as to her comment that "nothing serious or of substance" was found during the inspection, yet they were still fined $20,000...sorry, I don't believe that one iota. She's either telling a bald face lie about that particular issue or she is severely straying from the truth. I'd sure like to see that inspection report and see what was cited and what the penalties, if any, were actually for.

 

Here is the actual report:

 

Pdf : Engelbrecht Manufacturing citations

This administration does appear to issue more fines than any recent ones.

 

What will OSHA be like in Obama?s second four years?

 

"Total fines are still the highest under the Obama administration, but one Republican president also had a spike in OSHA penalties."

Each state (normally, there are extenuating circumstances at times) has a choice as who operates the OSH program in their state...either the federal government runs it or the state can have it's own program, "at least as effective as" the Federal program. KY decided at the inception of OSHA in 1972 to run it's own program, thus being considered a "state plan" state. I believe the breakdown is around 24 states that run their own programs. TN and IN both are state plan state, and OH and IL are both fed states. I'm a state employee. Someone who works for OSHA in IL is a federal employee...and MUCH better paid I might add. State plan states can also add to federally mandated standards, and make the standard "stricter" if they so chose, just can't make it weaker or "less strict". For instance, in general industry the trigger height for fall protection is 4 feet. KY, at one time, if it wanted to could have decided that 4 feet wasn't good enough, that 3 feet was better and made that a state specific rule (they didn't, just an example). However the state legislature evidently several years ago made it so that any changes like that became almost impossible to make. There are some other differences also, like how OSHA consultation works in a state plan and a federal state. As backward as KY is/can be viewed by the "outside" world, believe me...we have a world class consultation group and are 2nd to none in how we operate and how we help employers in the state of KY. It's just a shame that the general public will never know that.

 

Thanks for the info - the concept makes perfect sense.

 

Do the feds periodically review the state program to ensure that it hasn't fallen behind federal standards as they (may) evolve?

This administration does appear to issue more fines than any recent ones.

 

What will OSHA be like in Obama?s second four years?

 

"Total fines are still the highest under the Obama administration, but one Republican president also had a spike in OSHA penalties."

 

Very much more compliance oriented than consultation and has done several things to increase fines/penalties.

Thanks for the info - the concept makes perfect sense.

 

Do the feds periodically review the state program to ensure that it hasn't fallen behind federal standards as they (may) evolve?

 

Yes, as a matter of fact we just had our on site federal audit last week. My division did outstanding and is a jewel among state plan consultation groups. The other division I don't know for sure how they did, we are seperate and audited seperately.

Well, I don't know about the rest of it, and there sure seems to have been some "targeting" going on here and some misdoings by the government no doubt, but let me speak specifically about her comments about OSHA...since that is who I work for on the state level, KY being a state plan state.

 

There are several different ways a company can be "inspected". How her company came about on the inspection list I don't know, but if there was an accident at the site that resulted in an injury and hospital stay, or a complaint by an employee was registered and found to be "of substance", then an inspection is initiated almost always. Don't know if that happened here, but very possible since these type inspections are higher on the priority list and keep the compliance guys busy. They could have also just popped up on the general scheduled inspection list, or been part of a specific industry targeted outreach program, who knows.

 

Now, as to her comment that "nothing serious or of substance" was found during the inspection, yet they were still fined $20,000...sorry, I don't believe that one iota. She's either telling a bald face lie about that particular issue or she is severely straying from the truth. I'd sure like to see that inspection report and see what was cited and what the penalties, if any, were actually for.

 

This all goes back to are we suppose to believe that it was a concidence that all these federal agencies decided to investigate after she applied for a tax exempt group. If it wasn't then its not hard to believe fines were embellished for intimidation reasons.

Isn't this woman in the video the leader of True the Vote?