And you still have not answered my question. Once again, if Denver loses to San Diego, does that make Denver the worst team in the playoffs?

 

And as far as facts go with you. What's the point? The savior himself could come down and smack you with some facts and you'd argue with him.

 

You do realize what your saying is like saying that in 2008 when the giants who were a 5 seed beat the patriots who were 19-0 going into the game made the patriots the worst team in the playoffs right? Worse than the Bengals even because the patriots lost to someone 4 seeds lower and the bengals lost to someone 3 seeds lower. Can you not see how idiotic that is?

i did answer the question.

besides the fact that your question is purely hypothetical, I actually am using actual scenerio that took place. You see the Chargers did lose to the Broncos, you did know that didn't you? I answered your hypothetical question anyway when I said it would be worse for a 1 seed to lose to a 6 seed...go back to my previous post, you must have missed it.

 

The patriots and Giants isn't even close to being the same. How could a team (Patriots) who won every game in the playoffs until the Super Bowl be the worst team in the playoffs that year? That makes no sense at all, what about the teams they beat in the playoffs, wouldn't they be worse? I'd think so.

The Bengals lost their first game, don't you get that? The Patriots lost in the Super Bowl. I do hope you understand the difference there.

 

Now as far as your Savior comment....I gave you facts, you on the other hand made up a hypothetical scenerio, so don't tell me about facts ok? That comment you made was a bit childish and you are better than that.

I don't hitch my wagon to the talent argument. I have seen many more talented teams lose to lesser teams in all sports. Having talent helps, but there is a lot more to it than just who has more talent.

I don't hitch my wagon to the talent argument. I have seen many more talented teams lose to lesser teams in all sports. Having talent helps, but there is a lot more to it than just who has more talent.

I agree with that.

 

My point has been that I don't see them as most talented as much as I see them as among the deepest in terms of quality players to plug in when others go down. I think they may be among the deeper teams in the league, but not talented. More Talented in my eyes equates to being better than the others....bengals aren't that by far.

Hey Einstein, you asked me to show you proof they weren't the most talented and I did. I asked you for proof they are the most tale Ted and you have nothing. At least I am willing to show proof to support my side, you refuse to show anything. All you do is say checkmate lol. You have nothing to support your side, why? You afraid or what? Just show me proof the Bengals are the most talentd team. If they ate you should have something, anything....come on, you and reds have nothing.

 

Sad. At least try next time lol. You've been owned.

 

Been owned because of your opinion thinks that a first round lost proves they werent? Haha When history shows that a lot of times the most talented team and even the best teams end up losing in a one and out playoff system? Shoot even most bengal fans besides just me talk how talented this team was. Now you just make yourself look bad and I sure hope you dont say the 2005 team was more talented still or else you really would look bad lol just keep on reaching lol

I agree with that.

 

My point has been that I don't see them as most talented as much as I see them as among the deepest in terms of quality players to plug in when others go down. I think they may be among the deeper teams in the league, but not talented. More Talented in my eyes equates to being better than the others....bengals aren't that by far.

 

Haha so since your opinions is that most talented means better than others that your right and I was wrong. When I clearly made it clear on I was just stating the talent and not who the best team is. If I was I would never say it would depend on andy. Ha wow man lol. Then you even say you agree most talentes doesnt mean a team would do well and other things play a role lol. Well no duh hence the reason I didnt say benfals would win the super bowl just that they are probably are mosr talented team since the super bowls. So thank you fo supporting my point even more and how you argued something for no reason. I said many times that just because a called them most talented didnt mean I called them the best. Would you also like me to show that to you so this way you can keep grasping at more straws with your failed attempts at this subject?

I don't hitch my wagon to the talent argument. I have seen many more talented teams lose to lesser teams in all sports. Having talent helps, but there is a lot more to it than just who has more talent.

 

Which is very true and I have even stated that from the beginning when I just mentioned talent only. I tried to explain that to hell birs many times. However he seen the word talent and how it went against his whole off season argument he just had ro disagree just because and especially since I was the one who said it hah

Haha so since your opinions is that most talented means better than others that your right and I was wrong. When I clearly made it clear on I was just stating the talent and not who the best team is.

Listen genius.

When you say the team is the most talented it means one thing. Let me give you some examples.

 

The Seahawks are more talented than the Jaguars. Seahawks>Jaguars

The Colts are more talented than the Raiders. Colts>Raiders

See how it works?

If you say the Bengals are more talented than the Browns, what would you think? If you had to pick the winner of a game against each of those two teams "knowing" the Bengals are the most talented team out of the two, would you favor the Browns to win? No, you'd favor the Bengals to win. Why? Because they have been said to be more talented.

 

If being labeled "The most talented team" didn't mean they were really good, then why in the world did many of the talking heads that you listen to religiously predict the Bengals to make ti to the AFCCG? Because they said they were the most talented team.....they said it over and over and over again. Talent in their eyes=better team. It's not rocket science. I've never heard anyone say "The Patriots are the most talented team but man they are horrible" Use your brain genius.

 

So do me a favor, you've been proven wrong again. Stick to your story, the facts seem to back me up and not you. The most "Talented team" does not lose every year in the first round of the playoffs. I provided proof that points to them not being as talented as you claim they are....they lost AGAIN in the first round. You have provided what to prove your side? Nothing.

Listen genius.

When you say the team is the most talented it means one thing. Let me give you some examples.

 

The Seahawks are more talented than the Jaguars. Seahawks>Jaguars

The Colts are more talented than the Raiders. Colts>Raiders

See how it works?

If you say the Bengals are more talented than the Browns, what would you think? If you had to pick the winner of a game against each of those two teams "knowing" the Bengals are the most talented team out of the two, would you favor the Browns to win? No, you'd favor the Bengals to win. Why? Because they have been said to be more talented.

 

If being labeled "The most talented team" didn't mean they were really good, then why in the world did many of the talking heads that you listen to religiously predict the Bengals to make ti to the AFCCG? Because they said they were the most talented team.....they said it over and over and over again. Talent in their eyes=better team. It's not rocket science. I've never heard anyone say "The Patriots are the most talented team but man they are horrible" Use your brain genius.

 

So do me a favor, you've been proven wrong again. Stick to your story, the facts seem to back me up and not you. The most "Talented team" does not lose every year in the first round of the playoffs. I provided proof that points to them not being as talented as you claim they are....they lost AGAIN in the first round. You have provided what to prove your side? Nothing.

 

The only proof that you have came with is in your opinion losing in the first round means a team wasn't as talented as said. Which I am sorry to tell you as much as you would like to believe it, your opinion is just that an opinion and is not backing up anything because only your opinion says that losing in the 1st round supports that.

 

Then not only that you go against your own opinion. When you agreed to Mal on how talent is only one thing and how many other things go into being a good team. Not only that your whole Marvin is the worst coach in the league, and Dalton being horrible also supports the fact that yes this team can be very talented but as stated and something I have even said from the beginning. Even though they have the talent I even said it doesn't mean they were the best team. Hence the reason why I said it would depend on Dalton because I know talent is not the only thing it takes to winning, and you just agreed with that. Then you also say you agree the Bengals are a very deep team. Well genius everyone in the league has the same amount of players in the league. So if a team is deep, that means they have more talent behind their starters than most teams. Or otherwise every team would be considered deep. So you even supported even more how this team has talent, and even talked about that earlier in the year how most talent includes whole team not just starters. So you just keep supporting my argument, and you don't even realize it man. Then as I said you agreeing with Mal supported my stance even more, because I even said from the beginning that just because they had talent it would take other things like Dalton doing well for them to make a run. So you really are reaching for straws here and having no luck, because what you say on here is going completely against what your trying to argue.

The only proof that you have came with is in your opinion losing in the first round means a team wasn't as talented as said.

That's pretty much all I needed.

While you still haven't supplied one shred of proof to prove your side at all.

That's pretty much all I needed.

While you still haven't supplied one shred of proof to prove your side at all.

 

You already shared the proof for me when you talked about how deep they were. Which is the reason why me and others have said this is the most talented Bengals team since the 80's and possibly the most talented team in the league.

 

Still waiting for your proof because as I said an opinion of if a team loses in first round it means its not as talented as people say is just an opinion that you have not proof. So I am sorry to tell you an opinion is not showing proof at all man.

You already shared the proof for me when you talked about how deep they were. Which is the reason why me and others have said this is the most talented Bengals team since the 80's and possibly the most talented team in the league.

 

Still waiting for your proof because as I said an opinion of if a team loses in first round it means its not as talented as people say is just an opinion that you have not proof. So I am sorry to tell you an opinion is not showing proof at all man.

Deep does not mean most talented. When you have several average players at a position, that does not mean they are better and more talented than others with BETTER players.

 

For the 100th time, my proof is they lost AGAIN, where is your proof to show they are the most talented team? Still waiting. If you don't supply it in your response to this post I will take it as you admitting once again you were proven wrong by me.

Deep does not mean most talented. When you have several average players at a position, that does not mean they are better and more talented than others with BETTER players.

 

For the 100th time, my proof is they lost AGAIN, where is your proof to show they are the most talented team? Still waiting. If you don't supply it in your response to this post I will take it as you admitting once again you were proven wrong by me.

 

When are you going to get it that your opinion is not proof. Your opinion is that since they lost that means its proof? Key word is your opinion, meaning only your opinion thinks that a lost means that its proof, but an opinion is not proof.

 

Don't you realize you provided proof in my favor? Especially when you agreed with Mal when you said that talent isn't everything and that it takes other things to win. Which is also exact same thing I said when I first mentioned this before the season, and you just agreed with it when Mal said it. Your seriously just proved my point on it and you don't even see it. Then when you add in the fact that since you admit that talent doesn't mean a team would win. Then you can't say them losing is proof because of your whole Marvin is the worst in the league and Dalton is terrible. Because guess what since you admit that it takes more than just talent to win. You can't turn around and say that lost proves anything because your stance on Dalton and Marvin shows that based off what you have said that that Dalton and Marvin were big reasons why the talent didn't win since it takes more than just talent.

 

Thank you for proving my point without you even realizing it. Good night sir!

Bengals are raising ticket prices on 55% of all seats! Who Dey!

When are you going to get it that your opinion is not proof. Your opinion is that since they lost that means its proof?

Yep, pretty much and since once again you supplied nothing to back your side and since I at least showed evidence to back my side case closed. Better luck next year FC lol.

FC, you want me to give you even more proof that points to this team isn't the most talented besides the inability to win when it counts? How about the fact that if they were the most talented team in the NFL they would deffinatly have more than just 2 pro bowlers.

 

You do realize their are teams like the Browns with more than double the pro bowlers than the Bengals right?

Or the 49ers with 8 pro bowlers, or Chiefs with 8 or Panthers with 6.

 

Should I stop or keep going?

Thanks for playing.

Edited January 18, 201412 yr by Hellbird