Yep, pretty much and since once again you supplied nothing to back your side and since I at least showed evidence to back my side case closed. Better luck next year FC lol.

 

FC, you want me to give you even more proof that points to this team isn't the most talented besides the inability to win when it counts? How about the fact that if they were the most talented team in the NFL they would deffinatly have more than just 2 pro bowlers.

 

You do realize their are teams like the Browns with more than double the pro bowlers than the Bengals right?

Or the 49ers with 8 pro bowlers, or Chiefs with 8 or Panthers with 6.

 

Should I stop or keep going?

Thanks for playing.

 

Sorry to break it to you but your opinion that a team losing in the 1st round is not proof, because an opinion is not proof.

 

Secondily lets examine this. It first started with me saying this team is the most talented team since the last Bengals Super Bowl team. You say 2005 is more talented, and well since apparently in your eyes an opinion is proof. How about we ask all Bengal fans which team they felt was more talented, and I bet very few if any others at all will say the 2005 was more talented. Because I even said from the beginning that talent is not just talking about the starting positions, but the whole team. Which you even admitted that this team did have a lot of depth. So you basically admitted with that statement that I was right this was the most talented team since the 80's super bowl team.

 

Lets examine this some more. Since you say opinions are proof. Well a lot of people including non Bengal fans and NFL experts claimed the Bengals to be one of if not the most talented teams in the NFL. Did they ever say that about the 2005 team? Nope the 2005 team was just talked about for their explosive offense. Lets continue examining this since you like to believe opinions are proof. Well what is the one thing people said even after the playoff loss? That the talent is there but they need better QB play. Which is why Dalton came under fire from media across the country, it wasn't well maybe this team isn't as talented as we thought. It was is Dalton the right QB for this team.

 

Lets continue to examine this. You admit to Mal on here that he was right that talent doesn't mean everything, and it takes other things to win. Well we know your opinion on both Dalton and as you say the worst coach in the league in Marvin. So since you say it does take other things to win besides talent, but yet they still managed to be the 3 seed at 11 and beat 4 of the 12 teams in the playoffs during the season with the worst coach as you say in the league, and bad QB. They beat the likes of Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Flacco, Luck, etc. Yet they did this with the worst coach as you say in the league and a bad QB who should be a backup as you say. This team lost countless starters on defense, and were banged up on offense and yet still managed to go 11 and 5 and the 3 seed. So hmmm something don't add up here. Doesn't seem like a team with the worst coach in the league, a bad QB, and lots of injuries could possibly finish with a record like that, especially going against some of the QB's they had to go again. Unless wait that team was very talented from top to bottom. Is there really any stars on the team besides 3 in Green, Vontez, and Geno nope. However most talent means from top to bottom. Meaning starters get hurt you do have guys who could come in and still perform to keep that team to the same or close to same level or play without much of a dropoff.

 

So how is it possible considering the worst coach in the league as you say, a bad QB who is a backup, and lots of injuries for a team to still go 11 and 5 and beat some of the teams they beat along the way? Seems to me that must be a lot of talent overall on the team, and it just came down to how well their QB play. Hmmm who also said that? Me. So yeah your whole argument as usual just doesn't add up and as I said your reaching for straws. Carry on and move on.

 

At least this off season you can't be more wrong or at worst we both could be wrong because we are in agreement that Marvin should have been fired and they need to draft a QB.

Sorry to break it to you but your opinion that a team losing in the 1st round is not proof, because an opinion is not proof.

 

Secondily lets examine this. It first started with me saying this team is the most talented team since the last Bengals Super Bowl team. You say 2005 is more talented, and well since apparently in your eyes an opinion is proof. How about we ask all Bengal fans which team they felt was more talented, and I bet very few if any others at all will say the 2005 was more talented. Because I even said from the beginning that talent is not just talking about the starting positions, but the whole team. Which you even admitted that this team did have a lot of depth. So you basically admitted with that statement that I was right this was the most talented team since the 80's super bowl team.

 

Lets examine this some more. Since you say opinions are proof. Well a lot of people including non Bengal fans and NFL experts claimed the Bengals to be one of if not the most talented teams in the NFL. Did they ever say that about the 2005 team? Nope the 2005 team was just talked about for their explosive offense. Lets continue examining this since you like to believe opinions are proof. Well what is the one thing people said even after the playoff loss? That the talent is there but they need better QB play. Which is why Dalton came under fire from media across the country, it wasn't well maybe this team isn't as talented as we thought. It was is Dalton the right QB for this team.

 

Lets continue to examine this. You admit to Mal on here that he was right that talent doesn't mean everything, and it takes other things to win. Well we know your opinion on both Dalton and as you say the worst coach in the league in Marvin. So since you say it does take other things to win besides talent, but yet they still managed to be the 3 seed at 11 and beat 4 of the 12 teams in the playoffs during the season with the worst coach as you say in the league, and bad QB. They beat the likes of Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Flacco, Luck, etc. Yet they did this with the worst coach as you say in the league and a bad QB who should be a backup as you say. This team lost countless starters on defense, and were banged up on offense and yet still managed to go 11 and 5 and the 3 seed. So hmmm something don't add up here. Doesn't seem like a team with the worst coach in the league, a bad QB, and lots of injuries could possibly finish with a record like that, especially going against some of the QB's they had to go again. Unless wait that team was very talented from top to bottom. Is there really any stars on the team besides 3 in Green, Vontez, and Geno nope. However most talent means from top to bottom. Meaning starters get hurt you do have guys who could come in and still perform to keep that team to the same or close to same level or play without much of a dropoff.

 

So how is it possible considering the worst coach in the league as you say, a bad QB who is a backup, and lots of injuries for a team to still go 11 and 5 and beat some of the teams they beat along the way? Seems to me that must be a lot of talent overall on the team, and it just came down to how well their QB play. Hmmm who also said that? Me. So yeah your whole argument as usual just doesn't add up and as I said your reaching for straws. Carry on and move on.

 

At least this off season you can't be more wrong or at worst we both could be wrong because we are in agreement that Marvin should have been fired and they need to draft a QB.

That was an awful lot of garbage you typed to say nothing except that I was right.

 

You see, not only did I show you the Bengals lost in the first round which helps prove my point but I also pointed out the lack of pro bowl players from "the most talented team" that unless you mentioned I didn't see in your book you wrote, although I just skimmed over it because it had nothing of substance.

 

So tell me how the Bengals only had 2 pro bowlers if they are the most talented team in the NFL.

 

You didn't explain that one away yet.

That was an awful lot of garbage you typed to say nothing except that I was right.

 

You see, not only did I show you the Bengals lost in the first round which helps prove my point but I also pointed out the lack of pro bowl players from "the most talented team" that unless you mentioned I didn't see in your book you wrote, although I just skimmed over it because it had nothing of substance.

 

So tell me how the Bengals only had 2 pro bowlers if they are the most talented team in the NFL.

 

You didn't explain that one away yet.

 

You just don't get it, talent is not just about the starters. Also look in that post I even mentioned the Bengals really only have 3 stars that is Vontez, Green, and Geno. However when talking about talent it talks about the whole team and you simply don't get it, you really don't and never did from the beginning and still don't.

 

Also lets see I already showed you that your prediction for this team was to miss the playoffs and to go 6 and 7. Shows you definitely underestimated the talent on the team to overcome Dalton. I predicted they would go 11 and 5 because I knew the talent on the team. I also said this team though in the playoffs would go as far as Dalton would take them. So hmmm so seems to me my judgement on their talent gave me a much better understanding on how this team would do than you. Which means probably were much more talented than you had thought or would want to admit.

 

Mainly here you have no proof to prove that they weren't because stating an opinion that losing in the 1st round proves that is just stating an opinion not proof. I can't prove without a doubt that the Bengals were the most talented, and definitely most talented since the Super Bowls. Even though I do have a lot of people who shared that opinion and then also people who formed that same opinion as the year went on. So we can't prove each other other right or wrong. What I can prove and just did prove my opinion on how much talent was on this team and how they would do ended up being right and you wrong. So as I said move on, its over for you.

You just don't get it, talent is not just about the starters. Also look in that post I even mentioned the Bengals really only have 3 stars that is Vontez, Green, and Geno. However when talking about talent it talks about the whole team and you simply don't get it, you really don't and never did from the beginning and still don't.

 

Also lets see I already showed you that your prediction for this team was to miss the playoffs and to go 6 and 7. Shows you definitely underestimated the talent on the team to overcome Dalton. I predicted they would go 11 and 5 because I knew the talent on the team. I also said this team though in the playoffs would go as far as Dalton would take them. So hmmm so seems to me my judgement on their talent gave me a much better understanding on how this team would do than you. Which means probably were much more talented than you had thought or would want to admit.

 

Mainly here you have no proof to prove that they weren't because stating an opinion that losing in the 1st round proves that is just stating an opinion not proof. I can't prove without a doubt that the Bengals were the most talented, and definitely most talented since the Super Bowls. Even though I do have a lot of people who shared that opinion and then also people who formed that same opinion as the year went on. So we can't prove each other other right or wrong. What I can prove and just did prove my opinion on how much talent was on this team and how they would do ended up being right and you wrong. So as I said move on, its over for you.

 

Not a Bengals fan but hopefully Geno can come back from that ACL. Typically tough for a bigger guy to do. Right now the Bengals are a QB and a head coach away from being scary.