I was under the assumption he was still an employee when he fled.

 

Rape is too violent of a crime. Was anyone physically hurt in the info Snowden released?

 

 

1. No . He got most of his docs while working for Booz Allen.

2. Analogy deals with it being OK/no OK if you reveal secrets after leaving the military.

1. No . He got most of his docs while working for Booz Allen.

2. Analogy deals with it being OK/no OK if you reveal secrets after leaving the military.

 

In that case then, no, I don't think it is ever good to disclose military secrets at anytime.

In that case then, no, I don't think it is ever good to disclose military secrets at anytime.

 

We'll disagree. In order to keep it operating at the integrity level we expect it has to be called out occasionally. Just like our country's leaders.

We'll disagree. In order to keep it operating at the integrity level we expect it has to be called out occasionally. Just like our country's leaders.

 

It's all good. I'm a don't ask, don't tell kind of fella.

So your ok with letting government workers release top secret info if they don't like what is going on?

 

I don't like the way Snowden did it. Like I said I would of went to congress. But if government agency's are breaking the law I'd say it's there duty as Americans to let the rest of us know.

I don't like the way Snowden did it. Like I said I would of went to congress. But if government agency's are breaking the law I'd say it's there duty as Americans to let the rest of us know.

My guess is the intelligence community breaks the law everyday in order to protect the country. What if someone disagreed with us going into Pakistan to get Bin Laden and they blew the whistle in it?

My guess is the intelligence community breaks the law everyday in order to protect the country. What if someone disagreed with us going into Pakistan to get Bin Laden and they blew the whistle in it?

 

Perfect example. Thank you. :thumb:

We can all come up with examples that justify ANYTHING the NSA does - legal or illegal.

 

Question always is "does that make it right?" Does it support how our country was founded and the core values of the country?

Good read in today's WAPO - interview with Snowden.

 

 

Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission?s accomplished - The Washington Post

My guess is the intelligence community breaks the law everyday in order to protect the country. What if someone disagreed with us going into Pakistan to get Bin Laden and they blew the whistle in it?

 

It's all a matter of degree.

 

Did the NSA spy on its citizens in order to capture Bin Laden in Pakistan?

We can all come up with examples that justify ANYTHING the NSA does - legal or illegal.

 

Question always is "does that make it right?" Does it support how our country was founded and the core values of the country?

For the record I do not agree with what the NSA did in this situation. My issue with what Snowden did was it sets a bad precedent. If employees are allowed to decide what they can and can't release we are in big trouble. Should we allow soldiers to decide which orders they will follow?

It's all a matter of degree.

 

Did the NSA spy on its citizens in order to capture Bin Laden in Pakistan?

 

Why is it limited to spying on citizens? If you are ok with Snowden doing what he did you can't have an issue with any government employee releasing info about operations they feel go against our laws.

For the record I do not agree with what the NSA did in this situation. My issue with what Snowden did was it sets a bad precedent. If employees are allowed to decide what they can and can't release we are in big trouble. Should we allow soldiers to decide which orders they will follow?

 

Bad analogy IMO.

 

Soldiers are following orders. The military depends on that obedience.

 

As Snowden said in the interview, his agreement is to support the Constitution. In his mind, agree or disagree, he did that.

Why is it limited to spying on citizens? If you are ok with Snowden doing what he did you can't have an issue with any government employee releasing info about operations they feel go against our laws.

 

There is no blanket statement one can make. Too many qualifiers needed.

 

As I linked earlier, if you know something is being done illegally (and it was here) then going to the courts is not an option. The courts are set up to disallow your reasoning as to what you did. Patriotic or not. Right or wrong. Doesn't matter. Very black and white. Did you take the papers? Guilty. Life in prison.

There is no blanket statement one can make. Too many qualifiers needed.

 

As I linked earlier, if you know something is being done illegally (and it was here) then going to the courts is not an option. The courts are set up to disallow your reasoning as to what you did. Patriotic or not. Right or wrong. Doesn't matter. Very black and white. Did you take the papers? Guilty. Life in prison.

You first statement says it all for me. That is exactly why we can't allow everyone to make their own judgement call.