1. I thought you were pulled over for speeding?

2. Did you get a citation for what ever was hanging from your mirror?

3. Do you think it is a bad law? You think it is bad that there is a law that states that you should have an unobstructed view through your windshield?

 

I'm confused. I thought he said he was pulled over for speeding also.

1. I thought you were pulled over for speeding?

2. Did you get a citation for what ever was hanging from your mirror?

3. Do you think it is a bad law? You think it is bad that there is a law that states that you should have an unobstructed view through your windshield?

 

I was pulled over for speeding.I said that.

 

He mentioned the the item hanging from my rear view and stated how it's against the law. He didn't give me a citation. He was cool about it.

 

I just thought it to be ridiculous and considering they don't make any financial use out of it, officers like that police chief will most likely use laws like that to pull over an innocent individual.

 

I was pulled over for speeding.I said that.

 

He mentioned the the item hanging from my rear view and stated how it's against the law. He didn't give me a citation. He was cool about it.

 

I just thought it to be ridiculous and considering they don't make any financial use out of it, officers like that police chief will most likely use laws like that to pull over an innocent individual.

 

You made it confusing in your last post when you mentioned something like "what does it say about the officer pulling me over for that".

 

And regardless if police use it to stop someone, your issue should still be with the law itself. Police don't create the laws.

You made it confusing in your last post when you mentioned something like "what does it say about the officer pulling me over for that".

 

And regardless if police use it to stop someone, your issue should still be with the law itself. Police don't create the laws.

 

It was an example of any cop doing that.

 

And please read carefully halfback. I said "I'm way more upset that the law was put in place." But it would be a rather poor cop if he pulled someone over for that. As it would be used by the same pieces of crap like the police chief in the video.

 

It was an example of any cop doing that.

 

And please read carefully halfback. I said "I'm way more upset that the law was put in place." But it would be a rather poor cop if he pulled someone over for that. As it would be used by the same pieces of crap like the police chief in the video.

 

No, the chief advocated getting right on someone to make them make a mistake so he could pull them over.

 

Big difference in that and pulling someone over for a legit law, whether you agree with the law or not.

No, the chief advocated getting right on someone to make them make a mistake so he could pull them over.

 

Big difference in that and pulling someone over for a legit law, whether you agree with the law or not.

 

He used that as an example of a technique. If he noticed they had fuzzy dice hanging from their rear view, he could of used that as an excuse. Which is the only reason a "legit" law like that would be put in place.

 

Eating a cheeseburger I got in the drive thru to be more disruptive while driving than fuzzy dice. So, why not outlaw that? Seems like it would be legitimate.

 

He used that as an example of a technique. If he noticed they had fuzzy dice hanging from their rear view, he could of used that as an excuse. Which is the only reason a "legit" law like that would be put in place.

 

Eating a cheeseburger I got in the drive thru to be more disruptive while driving than fuzzy dice. So, why not outlaw that? Seems like it would be legitimate.

 

Again I think the majority of your gripe should still be with the law itself. The officer that pulled you over was nice enough to tell you about it to help you out. I don't disagree that it's a silly law.

This sorta brings to mind an incident that I once experienced that really got under my skin.

 

I used to work the graveyard shift with my nights off in the middle of the week. With odd sleeping hours, I usually stayed up pretty late on my nights off.

 

One given night I had been hanging at a friend's house, and was heading for home past 3:00 a.m. I was driving in the left hand lane of a one way, 2 lane street with a 25 mph speed limit. No one was on the road. I came upon a police car traveling about 5 mph, so I carefully switched to the right lane. I suspected that he was going slow to investigate perhaps something happening in the area.

 

After I passed him, he sped up and switched to my lane, and got directly in front of me and went back to 5 mph. Odd, I thought??? "What's this all about"??? ... I followed him this way for about a block and then switched back to the left hand lane, but now every time I tried to speed back up and pass him, he'd slide over toying with me like he was going to get in front of me. He played this game with me for a total of 14 blocks, and eventually turned to head in the direction of the police station. I carried on and thankfully got home without him finding some ridiculous reason to pull me over.

 

I hadn't been drinking, but I'm assuming that he was testing my reactions, and I clearly kept control of my vehicle, and kept passing his stupid little test. Needless to say though, I was really ticked off because outside of assuming incorrectly that since it was so late, I must be drunk, his actions also could've actually caused an accident, not to mention how frustratingly annoying it all was.

 

I really wanted to pull him over and ask him what the hell we was doing, and to also explain my working hours, and how I stayed up late on my nights off to let him know there was a logical reason for me being out at that hour.

 

After thinking about it, I should have pulled over as if I was parking to let him move on, and if he'd stop his car, then I'd at least have a chance to perhaps explain my thoughts and concerns.

 

The next day I found a pay phone to avoid being identified, and called the police station and voiced my displeasure of unnecessarily being harassed the way I had been, and how I don't pay a police officer's salary for them to mess with me like that. I pretty much got nowhere with that except for some attitude from the lady answering the phone.

 

I have a perfectly spotless criminal record, but have on a few occasions had to communicate with this same police station related to things like having my car broken into, only to have them turn around and treat me as if I was the criminal.

 

I grew up as a kid trusting the idea that the policemen are your friends, and are there to protect you. Yeah right! ... Then I got a few doses of reality, and have heard so many stories of bull crap about them that has made me see them quite differently as an adult.

 

One morning I, and a few of my neighbors woke to find our windows in our cars busted up. The police officer that addressed my issue acted like he was really going to get to the bottom of it. Later that day my neighbor who experienced the same and also had a surveillance camera on her property told me they had figured out who had done it, which aided the police in finding the perpetrator. I called the police station to tell them what my neighbor had said and they jumped my case for having called and said that I should not have called, and that I should've waited for the police officer to call me. That was about 10 years ago and I'm still waiting.

 

While my mechanic was fixing my window I shared with him my story about the police. He's pushing 80 and is the most honest mechanic in the world and well known in the community. He made me realize by a story of his own, that I wasn't going to get any satisfaction from the police department on the matter.

 

A few years before this incident, a thief stole a U-Haul truck from his lot and packed it with $40,000 in tools. The U-Haul truck was eventually found empty. He was certain that there had to be finger prints everywhere, and that it should be a relatively easy case to crack. About a week after the robbery he phoned the investigator to see if he had any leads. The investigator screamed at him and said that he told him not to ever call him and that he should wait for him to call him back. My mechanic told me a few years had passed and never again heard from the investigator, and that if they weren't going to hold up their end of the bargain for his $40,000 in stolen tools, they certainly weren't going to care about my smashed window, even if they already knew who had done it.

 

He's been a mechanic at the same location since he took over the shop from his Dad when he was in his mid 20's. He said years ago, systematically the police, that he would know by name, would stroll by his shop at closing time to say hello and ask if everything was OK. He said now they could care less about him and he doesn't know any of them.

 

The world has surely changed and I hate to sound jaded, but I don't nearly have the respect for policemen that I was raised to have. They frequently act cocky, and as if they are above the law, and on numerous occasions I see them ignore duty, and turn around and break the law themselves, or at least take advantage of their position. I realize that not all are this way, but I am not so naive anymore to believe or expect logical respectful behavior from them.

 

Once I was driving at night in a known speed trap area that is ever so easy to go over the 25 mph limit because it's all down hill. I saw that a policeman was following me with his headlights turned off. I played extremely careful to stay at 25 mph, which made me constantly look at my dash. Apparently I straddled the yellow line while constantly looking at my dash, and he turned on his blues and pulled me over.

 

First thing out of my mouth was "I wasn't speeding". He said "I didn't say that you were, you had straddled the yellow line" and so I went on to explain why and reminded him that his headlights were off all the way down the hill, but I was aware of him being behind me and how easy it is to go over the speed limit and that I was doing all that I could not to. He made me take a sobriety test that I passed with flying colors, and he told me to quit showing of and let me go on my way.

 

I could go on, but I think y'all have a pretty good grasp of what I think of the police.

Some of you are police magnets.

 

I've been pulled over one time. The guy wasn't particularly nice, but I didn't expect him to be. I got a warning which I was thankful for and I went on my way.

 

Police busted a party I was at in college once. Made all of us underage kids poor out our drinks. No one got cited, yelled at or arrested. Then they just left.

 

Also had police attempt to serve a warrant at my apartment in college. They knocked early in the morning. I answered. They asked if the person lived here, I said "no". I didn't invite them in and they didn't ask to come in. They took my word for it and left.

 

I can't think of any other police encounters. But I can assure you they're not all bad. :lol2:

True, but a whole lot of them are nowadays. Just saying. Back in the day, not so much.

According to wiki in 2012 there were 765,000 state and local personnel with arrest powers. Anyone delusional enough to think there won't be some bad apples out if 765,000?

According to wiki in 2012 there were 765,000 state and local personnel with arrest powers. Anyone delusional enough to think there won't be some bad apples out if 765,000?

Perhaps. But there's too many apples right now.

 

From what I posted in another thread:

 

]Confused after throwing a deafening and blinding “flashbang” into a home, police mistakenly shot and killed a sleeping seven-year-old.

 

What Killed Aiyana Stanley-Jones? | Mother Jones

 

"I'm worried they went Hollywood," said a high-ranking Detroit police official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the investigation and simmering resentment in the streets. "It is not protocol. And I've got to say in all my years in the department, I've never used a flash-bang in a case like this."

 

The official went on to say that the SWAT team was not briefed about the presence of children in the house, although the neighborhood informant who led homicide detectives to the Lillibridge address told them that children lived there. There were even toys on the lawn..

 

In addition to a link I posted earlier that I doubt any of the mouth breathers read:

 

Homeland Security increasingly lending drones to local police - Washington Times

 

Far from the battlefields of Afghanistan, a Predator drone was summoned into action last year to spy on a North Dakota farmer who allegedly refused to return a half dozen of his neighbor’s cows that had strayed onto his pastures.

 

South Carolina sheriff buys tank to conduct raids and it even comes with a detachable .50 cal. How cute.

 

The Richland County, South Carolina Sheriff's Department (that's them above) just obtained an armored personnel carrier, complete with a belt-fed, .50-cal turreted machine gun. Sheriff Leon Lott has charmingly named the vehicle "The Peacemaker," and insists that using a caliber of ammunition that even the U.S. military is reluctant to use against human targets (it's generally reserved for use against armored vehicles) will "save lives."

 

South Carolina sheriff buys tank to conduct raids - Boing Boing

 

Arkansas city goes under martial law

 

Following a rise in violent crime in Paragould, an Arkansas town of around 26,000 residents, the mayor and police chief announced that starting this month police in SWAT gear carrying AR-15s would patrol the streets.

 

“If you’re out walking, we’re going to stop you, ask why you’re out walking, and check for your ID,” police chief Todd Stovall told a December town hall meeting. As if to render the implementation of a visible police state more palatable, Stovall assured residents that police stops would not be based on any profiling: “We’re going to do it to everybody,” he said.

 

Arkansas town?s martial law plan - Salon.com

 

 

A town with two murders since 99 gets a tank.

 

It's not quite a tank. But the quaint town of 23,000 -- scene of just two murders since 1999 -- had just accepted a $285,933 grant from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to purchase a Bearcat, an eight-ton armored personnel vehicle made by Lenco Industries Inc.

 

Police 'Tank' Purchase Riles New Hampshire Town

 

Two SWAT Teams shut down a neighborhood in Colorado for four hours to search for a man suspected of stealing a bicycle and merchandise from Wal-Mart

 

Police close off east Fort Collins neighborhood to serve warrant | 9news.com

 

Arizona SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

 

Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Marine Veteran 60 Times - ABC News

 

SWAT team members fired 71 times and hit Guerena 60 times, police said.

 

In a frantic 911 call, Vanessa Guerena begged for medical help for her husband. "He's on the floor!" she said, crying, to the 911 operator. "Can you please hurry up?"

Marvel, when you say too many how many is that?

That works out to 1 officer per 410 citizens. I know our county is more like 1 per 650 and I'm guessing that many cities/counties have a far higher ratio than that.

I grew up as a kid trusting the idea that the policemen are your friends, and are there to protect you. Yeah right! ... Then I got a few doses of reality, and have heard so many stories of bull crap about them that has made me see them quite differently as an adult.

 

True, but a whole lot of them are nowadays. Just saying. Back in the day, not so much.

 

I was labeled a criminal on here for similar comments. Since then, at least three or four more police threads have popped up, all with less traffic than the original few.