July 15, 201313 yr Way to many greats to stop at five. You could take the top five off of every position and the team comprised of the next guy up is all world. Guys that are being left off of the list are freak studs.
July 15, 201313 yr Malone 29,580 points - 17,834 rebounds - 4 MVP - 1 NBA title Hakeem 26,946 points - 13,748 rebounds 1 MVP - 2 NBA titles I'm going with Moses.
July 15, 201313 yr Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Mikan. I agree with this. Though there have been several better centers, like Hakeem and Shaq, Miken started it all. And hey, I still teach the Miken drill today to kids. I can't recall ever teaching the Shaq drill. The rest to me are no doubters. Though I am not as high on Russell as some others are as I believe his teams success plays as big a role as his individual ability, he no doubt is considered the ultimate "winner" and was a defensive force around the basket. Kareem, not a more "complete" center, and all time leading scorer. Wilt, single most physically dominate force at any one time in the league, bar none.
July 15, 201313 yr Malone 29,580 points - 17,834 rebounds - 4 MVP - 1 NBA title Hakeem 26,946 points - 13,748 rebounds 1 MVP - 2 NBA titles I'm going with Moses. Yep, Moses for me, better rebounder and just filthy around the basket.
July 15, 201313 yr Yep, Moses for me, better rebounder and just filthy around the basket. Plus he made FTs.
July 15, 201313 yr Plus he made FTs. Without looking it up I don't remember what either shot from the free throw line...but was Hakeem a bad ft shooter? I don't seem to recall that he was but honestly I don't remember.
July 15, 201313 yr Without looking it up I don't remember what either shot from the free throw line...but was Hakeem a bad ft shooter? I don't seem to recall that he was but honestly I don't remember. No. Good clarification. My point was to say in addition to what you listed as strengths he also shot FTs well - 76%. Hakeem was 71%.
July 15, 201313 yr Oh, ok gotcha. Which in some's eyes might make Malone maybe at least as valuable as Shaq? At least in crunch time? Malone was a great center, and I think many forget just how great he was.
July 15, 201313 yr Author I love Moses, in his day he was an unstoppable force and one of the best rebounders in the game. Even though it never seemed like he got over the rim.
July 16, 201313 yr Malone 29,580 points - 17,834 rebounds - 4 MVP - 1 NBA title Hakeem 26,946 points - 13,748 rebounds 1 MVP - 2 NBA titles I'm going with Moses. Moses Malone entered the (ABA first I believe) NBA out of high school. Hakeem Olajuwan FINISHED college at Houston before entering the NBA. I'm not going to let the inflated stats influence me. Hakeem was the better athlete, and played in an era when there was a lot of competition at his position (Robinson and Ewing to name 2).
July 16, 201313 yr Moses Malone entered the (ABA first I believe) NBA out of high school. Hakeem Olajuwan FINISHED college at Houston before entering the NBA. I'm not going to let the inflated stats influence me. Hakeem was the better athlete, and played in an era when there was a lot of competition at his position (Robinson and Ewing to name 2). Good point on Hakeem playing better centers. Moses had easy pickins against creampuffs like Walton, Jabbar, Parrish, Unseld, Dave Cowens, Bob Lanier, Elmore Smith, Artis Gilmore, Issel, Laimbeer, and Hakeem. What was I thinking?
July 16, 201313 yr I can't get past The Dream dominating Shaq in the finals. I think Shaq was the most physically dominate player I've personally ever watched . But the dream was so skilled. You could argue his two titles were gifted to him by Jordan getting bored but he won them and those Houston teams were awesome . Tough to pick between them.
July 16, 201313 yr Good point on Hakeem playing better centers. Moses had easy pickins against creampuffs like Walton, Jabbar, Parrish, Unseld, Dave Cowens, Bob Lanier, Elmore Smith, Artis Gilmore, Issel, Laimbeer, and Hakeem. What was I thinking? I can't argue against Moses his prime was before my time. But I'll take the centers of the mid 80s and 90s over any era. Hakeem , Ewing , Robinson , Shaq, Mourning , Mutumbo and Duncan if he counts. My list is Russell and Wilt . I think we could all make good arguments for #3 and #4 with any of about 5 or 6 centers.
July 16, 201313 yr I can't argue against Moses his prime was before my time. But I'll take the centers of the mid 80s and 90s over any era. Hakeem , Ewing , Robinson , Shaq, Mourning , Mutumbo and Duncan if he counts. My list is Russell and Wilt . I think we could all make good arguments for #3 and #4 with any of about 5 or 6 centers. My response was not to say the 90s didn't have great centers. I think some are too young to remember the quality of centers in the 70s. Plus scoring was easier in the 90s due to NBA rules about defenses. You can't go wrong with any mentioned. I'm partial to Moses.
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