What issues do you have with the standardized field sobriety tests?

 

For one, they don't account for things such as if a person is naturally clumsy. For larger people like myself and most of the rest of our overweight country, the one-foot-out balancing act is difficult to do sober.

For one, they don't account for things such as if a person is naturally clumsy. For larger people like myself and most of the rest of our overweight country, the one-foot-out balancing act is difficult to do sober.

 

This area and one of the others you mentioned is why you need skilled officers. In my experience stud athletes normally pass the one leg stand and walk and turn even if they are above the limit (within reason) and word people and/or people with superior intellect normally pass the brain tests even if they are above the limit (again within reason).

This area and one of the others you mentioned is why you need skilled officers. In my experience stud athletes normally pass the one leg stand and walk and turn even if they are above the limit (within reason) and word people and/or people with superior intellect normally pass the brain tests even if they are above the limit (again within reason).

 

Or, for someone like me who is both a superior athlete AND possessor of a superior intellect, there is no test I cannot pass. There are so few of us. Ohhhh, the burden I carry, but I guess someone has to do it. But, of course, the best part about me is my humbleness. :smug:

I didn't say anyone would go for it. But if you really want to do it correctly, that's the only way. Not those ridiculous beer goggles.

I have looked through the "Beer Goggles", and got an instant feeling of vertigo...which as I recall was very similar to how I felt when I was snookered back in the day. I could not drive down the street wearing them.

 

Are they perfect? Probably not. But they are useful as a tool. The ones that I saw were distorted in different levels for different levels of intoxication.

For one, they don't account for things such as if a person is naturally clumsy. For larger people like myself and most of the rest of our overweight country, the one-foot-out balancing act is difficult to do sober.

 

The HGN test has nothing to do with how clumsy you are.

They're the ones who put on those demonstrations.

 

I know, but I think you missed the point of my post. It's not reasonable to expect them to liquor up a bunch of teenagers.

I'm guessing a lot has changed in two years because before I moved out of the state a couple years ago I can tell you a few police departments who had officers doing the backward test in NKY. May not be sanctioned but it still goes on. Which goes back to my point.

 

I'd say very few police officers, if any, have made a DUI arrest based only on the backwards alphabet test.

 

What police departments do you know that used it consistently? How do you know they used it as evidence against a driver for DUI related arrests?

I'd say very few police officers, if any, have made a DUI arrest based only on the backwards alphabet test.

 

What police departments do you know that used it consistently? How do you know they used it as evidence against a driver for DUI related arrests?

 

Officers put in the report they failed field tests but don't list all the tests given. Where did I say they made arrest only on that test. My point is the test should not be allowed to be given period.

 

My favorite and most common Police officer report is when they say someone eyes looked blood shot, I mean it doesn't fail how many reports I read associated with DUI, AI, PI etc.... its like they always have to throw that in. Not to mention I don't know to many people who get blood shot eyes from drinking.

 

Officers put in the report they failed field tests but don't list all the tests given. Where did I say they made arrest only on that test. My point is the test should not be allowed to be given period.

 

My favorite and most common Police officer report is when they say someone eyes looked blood shot, I mean it doesn't fail how many reports I read associated with DUI, AI, PI etc.... its like they always have to throw that in. Not to mention I don't know to many people who get blood shot eyes from drinking.

 

If they don't list the tests how do you know they gave the test? Seems odd they wouldn't list the tests also. That kind of information would be useful for court IMO.

 

I never accused you of saying they did that. I don't think the backwards alphabet test should ever be given either. It's a stupid test and the other alphabet test I provided is much better IMO.

 

And I've seen several drunks with blood shot eyes.

Guru, what tests did you use as a police officer? The standard 3? Backwards alphabet?

I want to add, I know people make mistakes. However, I know FAR too many people who underestimate their abilities to drive after drinking on a regular basis...some so bad that I refuse to go anywhere with them unless I am driving. Some of them have had DUI's in the past, and a good number have had more than one. Will lowering the limit stop people like them? No. But it will cause otherwise responsible people to think again. It doesn't take a falling-down drunk driver to cause an accident. I know a girl who would not have blown .08, but caused an accident because she failed to stop in time at a stop sign. The ensuing ordeal for her and her family was not pretty, and still hasn't ended fully. It only takes one time....