We often hear "yeah but he shoots a lot" when referencing a player who scores a lot. So PPG by itself may not be the best measuring stick.

 

I was thinking a better measure may be in the area of efficiency. For example, take the total number of points scored and divide it by field goal attempts. It gives you a measure of how many points they score on average every time they shoot.

 

 

Thoughts on that measure or better ways to measure?

Edited December 21, 201213 yr by Clyde

One thought that just popped into my head was to award 2 points to the total points scored for every assist a player has.

 

That would seem to award those that score AND pass.

Formula for the NBA's basic efficiency statistic:

 

((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers))

 

Does a simple counterbalance on volume shooters by penalizing missed field goal attempts and missed free throws.

how are you going to give credit for the guys setting screens to get shooters open?

^ With a pat on the back and an attaboy.

I often hear announcers/analysts talking about "scoring X number of points on Y number of shots."

Formula for the NBA's basic efficiency statistic:

 

((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers))

 

Does a simple counterbalance on volume shooters by penalizing missed field goal attempts and missed free throws.

 

That looks like an overall efficiency measure; particularly when including blocks and steals. I always considered those two stats to be more defensive-oriented.

I think assists are huge in measuring an offensive proficiency. Obviously the points but so many things go into a total player evaluation, many times all you gotta do is watch the player play. Forget about stats and just watch how involved they get in every aspect of the game.

 

I know I am more proud of my son when he contributes evenly in all facets and not just one area.

 

Yesterday was perfect example. Scored when they needed him to, passed well to open teammates for buckets, set some bonecrushing screens to free up the PG., hit big FT's, rebounded well and limited his turnovers. Too many people rush to see who scored the most in a boxscore.

how are you going to give credit for the guys setting screens to get shooters open?

 

You can't. Just like you can't really apply any numbers to an offensive lineman doing his job.

Don't forget adjusted pace, +/-, etc. I'm a huge stat-head (have a green belt in Lean Six Sigma), so I try to keep up with some of the stats used today (really handy for fantasy football). What is PER? - NBA - ESPN

 

 

Here's another article on how some NBA teams are tracking efficiency now (a great read):

Player tracking transforming NBA analytics - Sports Technology, Gaming - Tech Blog - ESPN Playbook - ESPN

 

Obviously, the costs to implementing a system like this would be far too high for other levels, but it gives a nice idea on some of the metrics that are used (e.g., shooting percentage when taking six dribbles; Celtics offensive efficiency when Rondo has the ball for 5+ seconds in a possession).

I think it's hard to quantify in high school. Some guys just make their team better. Some nights it's scoring, others its getting teammates good shots. Sometimes it's offensive boards and many times its all of them. I'll just say, it's easy to recognize when you see it, but difficult to quantify.

I think it's hard to quantify in high school. Some guys just make their team better. Some nights it's scoring, others its getting teammates good shots. Sometimes it's offensive boards and many times its all of them. I'll just say, it's easy to recognize when you see it, but difficult to quantify.

 

Agreed and I'm an "eyeball" guy when it comes to seeing how good a kid is even if he has great stats.

 

My question is aimed at a good way to measure kids that I've seen and have determined are really strong. It's also intended as a way to measure what really happens vs what some THINK happens with a kid's game.

We often hear "yeah but he shoots a lot" when referencing a player who scores a lot. So PPG by itself may not be the best measuring stick.

 

I was thinking a better measure may be in the area of efficiency. For example, take the total number of points scored and divide it by field goal attempts. It gives you a measure of how many points they score on average every time they shoot.

 

 

Thoughts on that measure or better ways to measure?

 

This is a simple way to evaluate offensive productivity.

 

points per FGA ratio - plus - assists per turnover ratio = offensive efficiency rating