MHSCardinal Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 I know they're 7-0 and ranked #1 in Class 2A, but, do you think they may be overrated? I'm not sure, but, in looking at there schedule, it's pretty weak and alot of those weak teams weren't blowouts, by any means.. Of there 4 non-district opponents, Owensboro Sr is the only one with a winning record and they're 5-3 and have a bad loss to an average Madisonville team. Apollo holds a 1-6 record and there lone win is over another one of OBoro Catholics opponents, Daviess Co, who's 2-5 and there wins are over a winless 2a team and a 1 win 3a team. OBC beats these 2 teams by a 23-12 and 28-14 score, respectively.. South Spencer is currently 3-5 and OBC beat them 24-14.. Not exactly performances you'd expect out of the best team in 2A. Butler Co and Hancock Co are district opponents and the only other 2 teams on there schedule with a winning record and neither of those 2 teams strength of schedule would blow you away.. No, let me rephrase, neither of those 2 have a quality win.. And, there next 3 opponents, Union Co, McClean Co and N.Hardin, all have losing records, so, there's really no competition between now and the playoffs, so, this team could and should be 10-0 heading in, but, really have been lightly tested throughout the season.. Like I said, I'm not sure if they are or aren't overrated, but, I do know there schedule leaves alot to be desired and some of these close win teams were blowout losses to alot of other teams.. How's this team gonna do when it actually has to play a good team like Murray, Desales, Green Co or CAL? Will they hold up to the ranking or fold like a cheap suit? Honest question for those who've seen them play and seen some of the other good 2a teams play?
Jumper_Dad Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 It's hard to tell...but I see your point. CAL, Murray and DeSales all appear to be pretty good to me. May be others out west playing good but I don't know much about the rest.
BIG BLACK JACK Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Just by looking at their record the past two years, they seem to bring it come playoff time. 2010: Lost title game to NCC 42-0. 2011: Lost in region final to Murray 17-14 OT. Small sample size as this team went through a dry spell for several years in the late 00's. But they appear to be legit.
MHSCardinal Posted October 12, 2012 Author Posted October 12, 2012 Just by looking at their record the past two years, they seem to bring it come playoff time. 2010: Lost title game to NCC 42-0. 2011: Lost in region final to Murray 17-14 OT. Small sample size as this team went through a dry spell for several years in the late 00's. But they appear to be legit. Here's the thing, 42-0 shouldn't happen to a good 2a team playing another 2a team, period. I think going into that game, OB was 13-1.. After Murray beat them last year, Murray got blistered the next week 40-10 by Glasgow, who then got blistered by Cov H.Cross by 19. By my count, that appears to be a pretty large gap between them and the best teams in 2A.. Going into the Murray game, they were 12-0.. It just appears they flaunt a guady record out there just about every year, against this same type schedule and when push comes to shove, they just aren't a championship caliber team. Is this years team different and if so, why are they different?
Toothpick Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 I think they are overrated but are a good team just not #1 good
Rambo4343 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Legit question, just asking? Is Lone Oak overrated? They got beat by OHS who got beat pretty good by Catholic. Just asking..... I think if Mayfield jumped to 2-A it would be a little more difficult then they think. YES, I know they were back in the 90's, but could they of survived during OC run in the 2004-2006 years, or the 2007-2009 Fort Campbell years? Again legit questions......
Rambo4343 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 I also don't think OC is very explosive offensively as they have been in the past. I think their DL is probably one of the best they have had. This DL was playing NCC when they were sophmores and got beat up bad, but it's not the case anymore.
The Scribe Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 I have them picked #1 in 2A because there just isn't a team that is head and shoulders above the rest right now. Bag on the Daviess County schools but they are all at least two classes larger than OCath and it's a rivalry game when any of them play. And Hancock County is no slouch. I think OCath is right where they want to be.
MHSCardinal Posted October 14, 2012 Author Posted October 14, 2012 Legit question, just asking? Is Lone Oak overrated? They got beat by OHS who got beat pretty good by Catholic. Just asking..... I think if Mayfield jumped to 2-A it would be a little more difficult then they think. YES, I know they were back in the 90's, but could they of survived during OC run in the 2004-2006 years, or the 2007-2009 Fort Campbell years? Again legit questions...... #1) Yes, Lone oak is overrated and I've said that all year. #2) Mayfield would have done fine in the 04-06 OB Cath years, not as well against the 07-09 Ft Campbell years. That's as much to do with Mayfield not being as strong during the 07-09 years. FYI, Mayfield didn't win state in any of those years in 1A either and this has nothing to do with if OB Cath is overrated or not. Had mayfield been ranked #1 during those years in 2A, I'd have said they were overrated. #3) I agree if Mayfield were in 2a, it would be more difficult, but, that's more to do with how weak Fulton City, Fulton Co and D2 are. OB Cath, Murray, Hancock Co and Caldwell Co are all good teams, but, that doesn't mean I think any of them are #1 team in class 2A. I do think Mayfield would be a legit #1 in 2A this year if they were in that class.
Toothpick Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Legit question, just asking? Is Lone Oak overrated? They got beat by OHS who got beat pretty good by Catholic. Just asking..... I think if Mayfield jumped to 2-A it would be a little more difficult then they think. YES, I know they were back in the 90's, but could they of survived during OC run in the 2004-2006 years, or the 2007-2009 Fort Campbell years? Again legit questions...... On LO hard to say now with qb back but I think so. Not sure why Mayfield is brought up but I am sure we would not have been able to stay with FC in 2007-2008 but would have been right there in 2009. 2004-06 not sure. Most years we would likely be right there
Rambo4343 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 In 2005, didn't Mayfield get beat by NCC 42-7? Interesting....... yet OC gets blasted for getting blasted. I think they would of had a tough time with the 2005 team who beat the unbeatable FC. Just stating facts. You said they would of done better those years. Maybe 2006, but not 2004-2005. Just saying........ Or is Northern KY schools and Louisville schools just better then WKY schools? Another good question THe reason I brought up Mayfield was they are killing opponents in a VERY weak 1A. Just saying if they played in the 2-A with Murray, Caldwell, Critt, O Cath, Hancock, Union. Then going to GLasgow, Lou. CAL, Green Co. in Semis, then playing Somerset, Danville, NCC or Holy Cross in Finals Would it be tougher? Your answer has to be yes. It will be tougher then Fulton City, Fulton Co., playoffs-Louisville HC then the big one will definelty be Beechwood. Do I agree Mayfield would be right up there? Absolutely, without hesitation.
SEMPERFIFALCON Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 On LO hard to say now with qb back but I think so. Not sure why Mayfield is brought up but I am sure we would not have been able to stay with FC in 2007-2008 but would have been right there in 2009. 2004-06 not sure. Most years we would likely be right there Different topic, but, Mayfield wouldn't have hung with FC in 09. You're right, most years Mayfield would be in the mix, but not in 07, 08 and 09. FC was a machine in that span.
Lawnboy13 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Just by looking at their record the past two years, they seem to bring it come playoff time. 2010: Lost title game to NCC 42-0. 2011: Lost in region final to Murray 17-14 OT. Small sample size as this team went through a dry spell for several years in the late 00's. But they appear to be legit. 13-1 Owensboro Catholic was averaging 43.9 pts. a game and ran into a buzzsaw.
CGG12 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Unfortunately when you talk about OC possibly being overrated I think of 2010. The fans almost had me convinced that OC was going to put up 60 in the state game....then the pregame started! Being on the field, not as a player, standing near the OC players. Then i realized their QB was like 5'6 100lbs, their best skill position guy looked good in pads but played terrified after he took 1 big hit, and they had huge wideout #4 I think that was lazy and acted like he didn't want be there. They got past the 50 on the opening drive and that was it. So excuse me if I'm not impressed with OC being #1 ranked at this point.
FalconBacker Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Different topic, but, Mayfield wouldn't have hung with FC in 09. You're right, most years Mayfield would be in the mix, but not in 07, 08 and 09. FC was a machine in that span. Yep, '09 FC team may have been the best small school team all-time in KY. 15-0 record with a Mr. Football selection as the QB. August 8,2008 @ Marshall County FC 50 Mayfield 7 FC '09 team was on a much higher level than the '08 team. If I were king, Mayfield & FC would play every season - Wow, we would have some ESPN instant classics!!!!
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