August 24, 201214 yr 70-79 destroyed Duke. I'd still take Jason Williams over Hurley. By a hair. I'm loving seeing these 50 in 50 starting lineups. Kyle Macy at the point for UK. That's pretty cool. I like Kyle Macy. Tony Delk top 3 option off the bench.
August 24, 201214 yr Believe me, it's painful to make that argument. :lol: I may be biased but I think it is a valid one. I have no issue with the order of top 5 teams as long as UNC is #2. Edited August 24, 201214 yr by PurplePride92 Came to my senses.
August 24, 201214 yr 70-79 destroyed Duke. For this particular deal, yes it did. But when I speak of 90's-Present, I think Duke is at the top.
August 24, 201214 yr For this particular deal, yes it did. But when I speak of 90's-Present, I think Duke is at the top. Agreed. The formula backs that up as well.
August 24, 201214 yr The thing is, the huge title advantage doesn't give UCLA a big advantage as other rankings usually do, especially in light of a couple of droughts they had since that time. Look at it this way...UCLA gets a +175 over UK, Duke and UNC in the championships. However, they lose much, if not more back in runner-ups, Final 4 and Elite 8 losses. Kentucky Titles - 4x25=100 Runner-ups - 3x20=60 Final Four - 3x15=45 Elite Eight - 13x10=130 Total - 335 Duke Titles - 4x25=100 Runner-ups - 6x20=120 Final Four - 5x15=75 Elite Eight - 2x10=20 Total - 315 UCLA Titles - 11x25=275 Runner-ups - 1x20=20 Final Four - 4x15=60 Elite Eight - 3x10=30 Total - 385 North Carolina Titles - 4x25=100 Runner-ups - 3x20=60 Final Four - 9x15=135 Elite Eight - 7x10=70 Total - 365 So, they have a big advantage in championships, but in tournament success over 50 years, the others close the gap considerably. And, with the titles only being 5 more points than the runner-ups, its not weighted to be a significant bump.
August 24, 201214 yr ^ I wonder how many of those UK Elite 8's did I throw something at some point during the game.
August 24, 201214 yr Author This is interesting though... The Blue Devils have 13 first-round picks since 1986, the most of any team. Umm... 1986 - Kenny Walker 1988 - Rex Chapman 1993 - Jamal Mashburn, 1996 - Antoine Walker, Tony Delk, Walter McCarty 1997 - Ron Mercer, Derek Anderson 1998 - Nazr Mohammed 1999 - Scott Padgett 2000 - Jamal Magloire 2002 - Tayshaun Prince 2006 - Rajon Rondo 2010 - John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson, Erik Bledsoe, Daniel Orton 2011 - Brandon Knight, (Enes Kanter) 2012 - Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Terrance Jones, Marquis Teague What am I missing?
August 24, 201214 yr 5Wide is the man!!! I was pretty close...9 points off on Duke, 2 off on IU. Missed Kansas by more. Obviously, I either vastly over-estimated their AA's, or missed some sanction deductions. The clean programs were easier. Kudos to Duke and UNC for that. I never got around to U of L, but I wasn't surprised they were ahead of IU, in light of past success combined with the recent Pitino era. That's why I didn't put a number by the Hoosiers with their point total. Here's what doomed IU - bad seasons in the 1960's and in the 2000's, and conference championships. They only have 13 Big Ten championships and zero conference tournament titles. The conference tourny thing is partly due to the Big Ten not having one, which is a de facto penalty to all their teams, unless they had some way in their calculations to offset that. But, even if you gave them 3 more points for each conference title, it wouldn't matter. They just don't have the tournament success to match the top schools.
August 24, 201214 yr ^ I wonder how many of those UK Elite 8's did I throw something at some point during the game. I still remember getting highly upset (unusual for me) when Prickett did something late in the 97 championship game. Scared the family.
August 24, 201214 yr I still remember getting highly upset (unusual for me) when Prickett did something late in the 97 championship game. Scared the family. I remember getting highly upset at Prickett on a frequent basis. :lol: Has there ever been a big man miss bunnies as frequently as he did?
August 24, 201214 yr As I posed above, I felt it was flawed when I saw Murray State ahead of WKU, and now I know it is with UNC above UCLA. It's just a joke to put so little additional weight on the NCAA titles, which is what it's supposed to be all about.
August 24, 201214 yr I remember getting highly upset at Prickett on a frequent basis. :lol: Has there ever been a big man miss bunnies as frequently as he did? Are you talking about Jared "Brickett" as he was affectionately known around my house....:lol:
August 24, 201214 yr Are you talking about Jared "Brickett" as he was affectionately known around my house....:lol: If I had an all-time least favorite UK team, Prickett would be on it. :lol:
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