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I understand the law and why they're bring strict, but let's all be honest here....$10,000 is a bit ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous?
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I have no problem with the fine, only wish they would include attempted arson as a charge as well. Ive seen someone throw a lite cigarette out and as i was driving past that spot 10 mins later the hillside was on fire, this summer is even a higher risk.

 

Are some people allowed to throw cigarettes out the window and not others? If not, then everyone IS being treated equally in this case.

 

But an unlit cigarette is no less littering than an empty coke can.

Everyone is treated equally. If you though out a cig you get a $10,000 fine. If I throw out a cig I get a $10,000 fine. If TB&G throws out a cig she gets a $10,000 fine. See how that works.

 

But cwf was referring to other kinds of littering vs a cigarette butt. Throwing out a coke can is littering. Throwing out a big mac is littering. Throwing out an extinguished cigarette is littering. See how that works?

But cwf was referring to other kinds of littering vs a cigarette butt. Throwing out a coke can is littering. Throwing out a big mac is littering. Throwing out an extinguished cigarette is littering. See how that works?
Stealing $100 is stealing, stealing $1000 is stealing. Ones a felony and one isn't.
But an unlit cigarette is no less littering than an empty coke can.

 

I saw the results of a wildfire that destroyed 346 homes in Colorado Springs this summer. Add the amount of money needed to fight the fire and the possible loss of life (human - animals always die in wildfires) and it is an awful thing. Was that fire started by a cigarette? They don't know. Could have been. But it certainly wasn't started by an empty coke can.

 

I saw the results of a wildfire that destroyed 346 homes in Colorado Springs this summer. Add the amount of money needed to fight the fire and the possible loss of life (human - animals always die in wildfires) and it is an awful thing. Was that fire started by a cigarette? They don't know. Could have been. But it certainly wasn't started by an empty coke can.

 

Certainly wasn't started by an unlit cigarette either.

Certainly wasn't started by an unlit cigarette either.

 

Very true. The problem is that in some cases only the person doing the tossing knows if it was lit when he/she tossed it.

Very true. The problem is that in some cases only the person doing the tossing knows if it was lit when he/she tossed it.
I'm saying if it was tossed from a vehicle 99% of the time it's lit.
I understand the law and why they're bring strict, but let's all be honest here....$10,000 is a bit ridiculous.

 

Throwing nasty cigarette butts out the window is ridiculous. There is one easy way for smokers to avoid the $10,000 fine. Stop throwing their cigs out the window. Ridiculousness solved.

Throwing nasty cigarette butts out the window is ridiculous. There is one easy way for smokers to avoid the $10,000 fine. Stop throwing their cigs out the window. Ridiculousness solved.

 

How did I know that answer was coming from you? $10,000 is a ridiculous amount of money. I understand it can cause a lot of damage, but so can you driving your own car. You could wreck your car, it could blow up and start a fire. If speeding is about $150 bucks, how can you justify flicking a cigarette butt is $10,000.

 

How did I know that answer was coming from you? $10,000 is a ridiculous amount of money. I understand it can cause a lot of damage, but so can you driving your own car. You could wreck your car, it could blow up and start a fire. If speeding is about $150 bucks, how can you justify flicking a cigarette butt is $10,000.

 

I don't know and I don't care how you knew. You should play the lottery I guess.

 

I don't have to justify it but like I said before, I can give one quick tip for smokers to save $10,000. Don't throw your nasty cig out the window. Keep it in your car.

 

As for comparing this to driving a car? That is what's ridiculous. Driving is necessary. Smoking is not. Wrecking a car is usually an accident. Throwing a cigarette out of the window is usually not an accident.

 

Throwing nasty cigarette butts out the window is ridiculous. There is one easy way for smokers to avoid the $10,000 fine. Stop throwing their cigs out the window. Ridiculousness solved.

 

Throwing any garbage out the window is ridiculous.

I can tell you for a fact, that after running the Commonwealth of Kentucky Rest Areas in Boone County and now cleaning some Boone County Parks, that the one single biggest peice of trash we pick up daily are cigarette butts! Nothing and I mean nothing else in the line of trash is even close to the amount of butts we pick up daily.

 

The thing that kills me about the number of butts we pick up, is I honestly don't think the majority of smokers realize they are doing it, as I just don't think the majority would even think of just throwing out the window a empty can of pop, or throwing a can or bottle on the ground!

I don't know and I don't care how you knew. You should play the lottery I guess.

 

I don't have to justify it but like I said before, I can give one quick tip for smokers to save $10,000. Don't throw your nasty cig out the window. Keep it in your car.

 

 

As for comparing this to driving a car? That is what's ridiculous. Driving is necessary. Smoking is not. Wrecking a car is usually an accident. Throwing a cigarette out of the window is usually not an accident.

 

Setting fires is usually an accident too. You think people that flick cigarettes are trying to start grass fires? Speeding in your car is against the law, so if you wreck from going too fast, charge someone 10,000 extra dollars because it "could have" started a fire...? Doesn't make sense to charge someone more than a simple littering fine for it, which are already usually hefty.

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