You don't describe in detail the events of either scenario, so I can't rebutt your opposition to my theory.

 

HOWEVER, I will tell you that personal defense coaches, acclaimed authors, and several former and current police persons I know agree with me.

 

I agree with you here. While I don't talk to or acknowledge everyone I see, in my experience if you look uncomfortable, nervous, out of place, etc. then you draw more attention to yourself and look like an easy target.

You don't describe in detail the events of either scenario, so I can't rebutt your opposition to my theory.

 

HOWEVER, I will tell you that personal defense coaches, acclaimed authors, and several former and current police persons I know agree with me.

What details are you wanting? I told you what happened so I'm not sure what you're looking for.

 

I've met personal defense coaches, some agree with you, most say conceal carry. I know plenty of former and current police officers as well, they all say avoid contact whenever possible.

What details are you wanting? I told you what happened so I'm not sure what you're looking for.

 

I've met personal defense coaches, some agree with you, most say conceal carry. I know plenty of former and current police officers as well, they all say avoid contact whenever possible.

 

I love it...always the answer is "get a gun". :lol:

I agree with you here. While I don't talk to or acknowledge everyone I see, in my experience if you look uncomfortable, nervous, out of place, etc. then you draw more attention to yourself and look like an easy target.

Neither of the two incidents I've talked about did they look or feel nervous, they thought everything was going to be fine. My sister-in-law did almost to the letter what rockmom advised, they pretty much didn't care and it was about to get really ugly.

I love it...always the answer is "get a gun". :lol:

You want me to lie and say they told me something different? :idunno:

Cool deal. Thank you.

 

Do you carry at all times?

Want a shock? I never carry.

You want me to lie and say they told me something different? :idunno:

 

Even before your reply to me, you advised FKY in concealed carry. That's your go to answer. A gun doesn't make you safer. I'd argue it creates a false sense of security.

Shooting on the run is extremely difficult.

That is why I said practice, and lots of it. Ideally, if able, I would recommend stopping to shoot if at all possible.

Even before your reply to me, you advised FKY in concealed carry. That's your go to answer. A gun doesn't make you safer. I'd argue it creates a false sense of security.

You can argue that all you want, I know better. Only a fool that doesn't train will have a false sense of security. Over the years I've known so many people that stopped criminals in their tracks because they carry, not one of them got hurt. Not one of them became the victim.

Neither of the two incidents I've talked about did they look or feel nervous, they thought everything was going to be fine. My sister-in-law did almost to the letter what rockmom advised, they pretty much didn't care and it was about to get really ugly.

 

I didn't say it was absolute, just good advice. It's unfortunate that people you know were victimized, but those are two incidences out of how many millions of encounters between people on a day-to-day basis? I spent the last two weeks in Chicago's south side and no one looked at me twice, should I assume from my personal experience that no one will run in to trouble there because I didn't?

I didn't say it was absolute, just good advice. It's unfortunate that people you know were victimized, but those are two incidences out of how many millions of encounters between people on a day-to-day basis? I spent the last two weeks in Chicago's south side and no one looked at me twice, should I assume from my personal experience that no one will run in to trouble there because I didn't?

No, not at all. I know that probably over 90% of the time you'll be fine and have no worries. It's the rest of the time you have to concern yourself with. Why do you have a problem with those that prefer to be cautious? Who's it hurting?

You can argue that all you want, I know better. Only a fool that doesn't train will have a false sense of security. Over the years I've known so many people that stopped criminals in their tracks because they carry, not one of them got hurt. Not one of them became the victim.

 

What makes it hard for me to believe is that I only know of a few people who have actually encountered criminals, let along gotten the opportunity to stop them with or without a gun. I know a LOT of people like me.

Even before your reply to me, you advised FKY in concealed carry. That's your go to answer. A gun doesn't make you safer. I'd argue it creates a false sense of security.

BTW, I thought he said he ran in a bad area, so yeah, I'd always advise it in those kind of areas.

No, not at all. I know that probably over 90% of the time you'll be fine and have no worries. It's the rest of the time you have to concern yourself with. Why do you have a problem with those that prefer to be cautious? Who's it hurting?

 

I don't have a problem with it, I'm cautious and attentive myself. But the topic of the thread is about how scared we should be of young black men with flat bill hats.

No, not at all. I know that probably over 90% of the time you'll be fine and have no worries. It's the rest of the time you have to concern yourself with. Why do you have a problem with those that prefer to be cautious? Who's it hurting?

 

No one is saying to not be cautious. I think some of us feel there are ways to ensure that one is safe without extreme tactics or avoidance based upon superficial analysis.