nyrangers

Bad Assumptions: regardless of where you live you must have a contract to attend another public school unless you do it illegally. The two people you mentioned had residency in the case of one and an employees child in the case of the other.

Here is my example. If I live in Newport and work in Pendleton I can take my kids there if Newport agrees. If I live in Dayton and want to go to Bellevue Dayton will not release me! I can give a false address and hope I don't get caught.

First the district you live in has to release you to the district you want to go to and then you have to be accepted. This is for all public district. Yes you could go to Kenton, Campbell, Boone, Grant, Bracken IF you are released to do so.........Living in Bellevue doesn't mean you can go to any independent district. You are giving out bad info. Please stop. I am very well versed in the legal aspects of public schools and residency issues.

varsity game at 9:00am??????

Okay that might be the most uniformed statement I have ever ready. 98 I do not agree with the boycott but independent schools are bound by the same boundaries as a county school. Now all public schools can accept out of district students if they have a contract with the residing district and charge tuition. Some independents take more out of district students than others just like some county districts do. There is no "best of both worlds." And facts bear that out. I usually agree with most of your posts but this is way off base. Ask indepdendent districts such as Dayton, Bellevue, Newport, Ludlow, Silver Grove, etc how many out of districts students they have. Not many if any. And for a fact most of these are employees kids which is an unwritten agreement amongst public school districts. The fact that some public schools (independent and county) do not check the addresses students give and look the other way when a good athlete pops up with an address in their district doesn't mean most independents do this. It is the same as saying all private schools recruit and cheat. Neither statement is true.

Old guy let me state again I am familiar only with the legal public school contracts and those numbers on legal contracts. Again your point shows the fallacy of the system.

And I can tell you for a 100% fact that in most (key word most not ALL) public schools the out of district students (what few they have) are employees kids. I will also tell you that in the public schools in Northern Ky .with the exception of a couple the districts have less than 5 out of district students. I am not on here to point fingers so you must know what some of the schools you are talking about are doing I for one only know the legal public school contracts end of things.

Okay you totally missed the point. I am giving you a professional explanation and you return with sarcasm......and no Beechwood area is slightly larger and that was not my point. I was using Bellevue as an example of a small radius. Also.....you pointed out two public schools that have several non district students in them and as you pointed out alumni find a way to get them in. That is my point with the entire problem. It is not just a private school problem. There are also public schools taking advantage of....circumventing....whatever semantic word you want to use.....the system. Therefore to fix the problem it will take enforcement of rules not banishment of the private schools.

This is the best explanation I could get on ADA and this is why those of you posting that public schools and independent schools can go outside the boundaries are wrong. If a student goes outside the district there must be a contract between the two districts. Districts try to keep these even (you got three of mine and I get three of yours). This way no ADA changes hands and no tuition has to be charged. Most of these kids are employees kids going to the school where the parent works. It is an unwritten rule that you release the ADA on these kids if you don't have a balance. If an unbalance exists then the receiving school releases the ADA to the school that the student resides in. Then (supposedly) the receiving school charges tuition to equal the lost ADA (around 4,000). Most public school districts work very hard to not allow students to attend another public school. They do not have to release any student if they choose not to. And that only makes sense. Especially in Northern Ky. with so many school districts you have many employees children attending out of district. If for some reason the host district is unaware that a student is living in their district and attending another public school then the ADA goes to the school they are attending usually using a false address. So my point in all of this is private schools have a larger base to draw from. Example: Bellevue has a 1 mile square radius to draw students. NCC has an area 10 times that to draw from. Yet they have been in the same football district for years. Is this NCC's fault????? NO of course not. You take kids from wherever you are allowed. So those of you with private school students have to at least see the publics school position on areas. However....public school proponents need to see their is just as much abuse of the system when it is a public school taking another public schools student with phony addresses or just plain keeping quiet about where a student lives.

AllTell I agree. Sear's argument in theory is valid. However.......blaming just private schools is a poor argument. There are way too many public schools doing the same thing. Rather than making this a public vs private it should be everybody play by the same rules. I can tell you there would be a whole lot of schools in trouble private and public alike if they had to define boundaries. Again if you look at my first post the approach is all wrong. Now....how about boycott every school who "recruits" kids from outside the district. In NK you would have several private and at least a handful of public schools to boycott. But not all private schools would be in trouble because they live with the boundaries they are given.

This is some real bad info. Independent schools cannot advertise and just take kids; they have boundaries just like county schools. The only schools without boundaries are private schools. The Diocese of Cov. will tell you that they enforce boundaries but if you look at where kids live (and I can show proof but don't want to break the rules) they can't even control one private school from taking kids from another private schools areas.

An Independent district is a public school district not part of a county system. That is the only distinction. I am not sure why we keep saying Independents can do certain things. IF a student chooses to attend a public school outside the district they must pay tuition. If not then the receiving school is no better than anybody else for not enforcing the rules. An independent district has limited boundaries much morese than the county districts since most county districts get a small piece of area and students who live in the independent cities. See parts of Ft. Thomas and Bellevue where those students belong to the county even though they live in the cities.

Don't be so sure about that. There are some frustrated public districts who watch as kids are taken away. I think the sentiment in No. Ky. would surprise alot of people.

OH and it would not affect (the boycott) conference play or post season play.

Now.......I admit Wilson Sears may not be the best guy........but the "legislative run" by the private schools and the arrogance shown during the meetings that "we don't have to compromise" attitude of private school members (2 to be precise) is a major factor in all this. I do not agree with Wilson Sears but the premise of the argument is just and boundaries are just. And............a boycott of private schools is being discussed. Do I agee? NO..........but the frustration level is getting very high in some sectors because of the loss of students. Private schools job is to recruit students....no tuition no school. Public schools need to become more PR savvy and "get in the game." That being said the private schools that do the most damage in the public school sector are ones in direct competition for students with specific public school systems. By and large this has no bearing on the majority of public schools as far as a student base and numbers of students. Since numbers of students drives the public school money and tuition drives the private school money it is all about filling the seats. Public schools need to compete in that arena.

Wow.....it does seem like this is a playoff games to a few folks. Maybe we should adjust our records of NCC and Dixie to include that game....:sleep: Since nobody has posted this I am going with a Bracken Co. break of the streak and a 2 - 8 record.:thumb:

Okay somebody has to have a losing record. Lets go Bellevue 4 - 6 Dayton 5 - 5

Newport 7-3

I think playing at Dayton was awful (meaning a huge advantage for Dayton). Not as bad now that the "Berlin Wall" I mean Great White Wall of Dayton has come down. It gave a very closed in feeling......and the cheerleaders were right on top of you.........and the fans well...........somewhat abusive to the visitors:D Especially NCC and Bellevue

Where will most of the cardinals go? Are they Bellevue kids or all over CC

Will all the Rockets go to Highlands? A buddy of mine has kids on the team and they seem to always win

I may have the order wrong but they have the following: Newport at Newport in a bowl game Paris H Ludlow A NCC A Brossart H Beechwood H Lloyd H Dayton A Bracken H Gallatin A Strong teams in Paris , NCC, Newport and Lloyd out of district. Not sure about scrimmages

This looks like a good schedule for a rebuilding.........or reloading year...........:ylsuper:

Okay the "Give the 1A or 2A boys a run for their money" is an odd statement. There have girls play in the 1A over the years in Northern Ky. and never has one been even remotely close to giving anybody a "run for their money." No problem with the girls playing but lets not slight 1A athletes. If a girl is that good then she could play with anybody.

Bellevue has 2 girls I think