Sparkey

Does anyone remember the last time Beechwood lost an opening game?

Yes I did. Here is the quote Quote: Originally Posted by 64black&gold View Post The people that have been posting the prayer in school posts would be the last people in favor of a "required" prayer. You have a right to your opinion but I believe your mistaken on this one. Well, then they're mistaken as to their griping about "taking prayer out of the schools," since there is no legal document saying kids can't pray in school. It just can't be school-organized/mandated. The original quote was referencing "required" prayer in school. You added the quote "taking prayer out of the schools" a completely different topic that no one said. I only asked that you be careful not quoting something that wasn't said as this is a subtle way some anti christian groups attack Christianity. I am in no way accusing you of using those tactics, for all I know you could be a Christian minister and I hope you are not offended.

Did I miss something? Nowhere did I see anyone mention "taking prayer out of the schools" unless you are quoting from another thread I would be careful to not quote things people did not say.

To everyone, Thanks for the kind remarks. There are many reasons people home school. It was never our first choice. One thing we have learned is that all children can learn but not all children learn the same way. The trick is to figure out how you child learns and then make sure that is how they are taught. I do not advocate one method over another. I only know that God has blessed my wife and I with seven wonderful children and we will do whatever is best for each and every one of them. To the teacher(s) out there we are in our 16th year at this school and have nothing but praise and thanks for all who have taught our kids.

To everyone, Thanks for the kind remarks. There are many reasons people home school. It was never our first choice. One thing we have learned is that all children can learn but not all children learn the same way. The trick is to figure out how you child learns and then make sure that is how they are taught. I do not advocate one method over another. I only know that God has blessed my wife and I with seven wonderful children and we will do whatever is best for each and every one of them. To the teacher(s) out there we are in our 16th year at this school and have nothing but praise and thanks for all who have taught our kids.

He did attend High School and is now a freshman in college. He finished school with a B average. His accommodations included books on tape, notes given to him. A person to read to him if testing and there were paragraphs to read and comprehend just to name a few. If he heard it he would remember it. Me, I would have to hear it, read it and smell it and I would still forget These accommodations have followed him to college and give him the ability to access information that we take for granted.

He did attend High School and is now a freshman in college. He finished school with a B average. His accommodations included books on tape, notes given to him. A person to read to him if testing and there were paragraphs to read and comprehend just to name a few. If he heard it he would remember it. Me, I would have to hear it, read it and smell it and I would still forget These accommodations have followed him to college and give him the ability to access information that we take for granted.

Academically the school is excellent, except for not supporting special needs kids I am very happy with it. Our first son was a valedictorian and a national merit scholar, and we still have 3 children in the school. I will give one example of many we have and then I will let it go as I don't want this to be about bashing the school. Our daughter was in her fourth year at the school. She could not read or write. Academically she was still at the kindergarten level. Her teacher said she was not ready for the next grade. The principal said they would not hold her back because she spent two years in kindergarten. The special education director said she was sorry but our daughter was one year and ten months behind according to their testing and needed to be two full years behind before they could offer any services. Three days late we pulled her out of the school.

Academically the school is excellent, except for not supporting special needs kids I am very happy with it. Our first son was a valedictorian and a national merit scholar, and we still have 3 children in the school. I will give one example of many we have and then I will let it go as I don't want this to be about bashing the school. Our daughter was in her fourth year at the school. She could not read or write. Academically she was still at the kindergarten level. Her teacher said she was not ready for the next grade. The principal said they would not hold her back because she spent two years in kindergarten. The special education director said she was sorry but our daughter was one year and ten months behind according to their testing and needed to be two full years behind before they could offer any services. Three days late we pulled her out of the school.

Ram, There are other public and private schools in the area. The problem is that schools are reluctant to accept tuition kids who have special needs because of the costs of providing the services they need. He did play soccer on a club team from about 6 years old thru his senior year. If I have one passion above all others it is high school football. I came from a single parent home and football was the father I didn't have. We started going to games when he was in kindergarten and that passion passed from father to son. The decision would seem like an easy one to put him back into public school. But for special needs kids, struggling in the classroom take a tremendous toll on their self esteem. We decided to spend whatever time it took after school and practice to help him keep up with his school work. Most nights spending 3 to 4 hours reading to him, writing papers he dictated to us or showing him how to find answers "hidden" to him in his text books. All because I believed that football would allow him to build character and self worth. Once he started getting the services he needed our one on one tutoring time fell dramatically. He did indeed develop those qualities and many more thanks to a tremendous work ethic and GREAT coaches. I can't begin to express the gratitude I have for coaches and the influence they have on these young men. That should be a thread in itself. Sparkey

Ram, There are other public and private schools in the area. The problem is that schools are reluctant to accept tuition kids who have special needs because of the costs of providing the services they need. He did play soccer on a club team from about 6 years old thru his senior year. If I have one passion above all others it is high school football. I came from a single parent home and football was the father I didn't have. We started going to games when he was in kindergarten and that passion passed from father to son. The decision would seem like an easy one to put him back into public school. But for special needs kids, struggling in the classroom take a tremendous toll on their self esteem. We decided to spend whatever time it took after school and practice to help him keep up with his school work. Most nights spending 3 to 4 hours reading to him, writing papers he dictated to us or showing him how to find answers "hidden" to him in his text books. All because I believed that football would allow him to build character and self worth. Once he started getting the services he needed our one on one tutoring time fell dramatically. He did indeed develop those qualities and many more thanks to a tremendous work ethic and GREAT coaches. I can't begin to express the gratitude I have for coaches and the influence they have on these young men. That should be a thread in itself. Sparkey

I wasn't going to comment, but a lot of posters seem to be missing the point. First, a little background on our family. We have seven children; four adopted from overseas with various physical and mental disabilities. For one year we placed all seven in the public school (kindergartner thru senior). In the past we have home schooled as many as four at a time; currently we have two at home, three in the local public school, and two in college. Society has decided that education is important; so much so that all are required to pay taxes to ensure that every child is afforded the opportunity to an education. Whether it is public, private, or home school, what we as a society want is a well-rounded, educated individual. Part of that education includes extracurricular activities. If we didn't think extracurricular activities were good for the kids we wouldn't have them. The value of these activities is the same to all who participate - whether public or home schooled. I would argue that by denying home-schooled kids access to these activities we are cheating them and society of all that they can be. Do we not all gain by all students being afforded the opportunity to be more "rounded" by participating in these activities? Let me use my second son as an example. He was in the public school from kindergarten thru 6th grade. He struggled with reading and writing. The school’s answer was that he wasn't trying hard enough; he didn't pay attention; he was disorganized. We chose to pull him out and home school him for the 7th grade. After working with him one-on-one it was apparent that something wasn't right. He did very well that year at home, but now it’s time for 8th grade and we have a dilemma. We really wanted to let him play football, but as a home schooler he was not allowed. We could put him back in the school, but they are still insisting that he has no problems – he just needs to work harder and apply himself. Finally, we opted to put him back in the public school and then spent 3 to 4 hours many nights reading his work to him. (instead of books on tape he got parents on tape! ) We did this because we thought football was good for him. It gave him an arena in which to excel – an area to counterbalance the struggles he had academically. The next year we had him tested at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital and found out that he had Dyslexia along with Tourette's Syndrome and other issues we knew he had. He continued to struggle with school, but football turned out to be a great area in which he could shine. He was also a tremendous asset to the team. He ended up being the MVP of the state championship game his senior year and made many valuable contributions to the team during the year. Think of what his participation meant to his team, the school and the community, not to mention what it meant to him. What do we gain by keeping these kids out of the system? Nothing, and I say we stand to lose a lot. Some would say ‘yes’, but that is a choice you are making. This is not always the case. We have another child who is also dyslexic and has other learning disabilities. She can never go back to the public school because the school cannot/will not educate her. Our only other choice is a school like Springer, which we cannot afford. The default choice then becomes to educate her ourselves or let her languish in the public school falling further and further behind. We seem to have this idea that if a kid does not show up at 7:50 am to listen to school announcements, eat in the school cafeteria , go to six different classrooms a day and have his/her own locker then they haven’t earned the right to participate in extracurricular activities. Some say that it is not “fair” that a home schooled kid gets the benefits of these activities without “earning” them. I say these kids work just as hard, if not harder than their public school peers, because they can’t get lost in the crowd. They have “earned” it. It strikes me as elitist that we say these activities are beneficial to our kids, but we only allow this benefit if you do it our way by attending the public school. Some have said that allowing the home-schooled kids to participate doesn’t feel right, feels dirty or just is not fair. I would argue that it is none of those things. Perhaps we just don’t like change. At one point it didn’t seem right that a woman should vote or a black man should be President of the United States - but it is. These kids work just as hard as their peers, they live in the district, and their parents are paying for services that they are not using (as well as paying to educate their children at home out of their own pocket). What has made our country great is the opportunity we afford every person to be all that they can be. The purpose of the public school is to provide opportunity - not deny it.

I wasn't going to comment, but a lot of posters seem to be missing the point. First, a little background on our family. We have seven children; four adopted from overseas with various physical and mental disabilities. For one year we placed all seven in the public school (kindergartner thru senior). In the past we have home schooled as many as four at a time; currently we have two at home, three in the local public school, and two in college. Society has decided that education is important; so much so that all are required to pay taxes to ensure that every child is afforded the opportunity to an education. Whether it is public, private, or home school, what we as a society want is a well-rounded, educated individual. Part of that education includes extracurricular activities. If we didn't think extracurricular activities were good for the kids we wouldn't have them. The value of these activities is the same to all who participate - whether public or home schooled. I would argue that by denying home-schooled kids access to these activities we are cheating them and society of all that they can be. Do we not all gain by all students being afforded the opportunity to be more "rounded" by participating in these activities? Let me use my second son as an example. He was in the public school from kindergarten thru 6th grade. He struggled with reading and writing. The school’s answer was that he wasn't trying hard enough; he didn't pay attention; he was disorganized. We chose to pull him out and home school him for the 7th grade. After working with him one-on-one it was apparent that something wasn't right. He did very well that year at home, but now it’s time for 8th grade and we have a dilemma. We really wanted to let him play football, but as a home schooler he was not allowed. We could put him back in the school, but they are still insisting that he has no problems – he just needs to work harder and apply himself. Finally, we opted to put him back in the public school and then spent 3 to 4 hours many nights reading his work to him. (instead of books on tape he got parents on tape! ) We did this because we thought football was good for him. It gave him an arena in which to excel – an area to counterbalance the struggles he had academically. The next year we had him tested at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital and found out that he had Dyslexia along with Tourette's Syndrome and other issues we knew he had. He continued to struggle with school, but football turned out to be a great area in which he could shine. He was also a tremendous asset to the team. He ended up being the MVP of the state championship game his senior year and made many valuable contributions to the team during the year. Think of what his participation meant to his team, the school and the community, not to mention what it meant to him. What do we gain by keeping these kids out of the system? Nothing, and I say we stand to lose a lot. Some would say ‘yes’, but that is a choice you are making. This is not always the case. We have another child who is also dyslexic and has other learning disabilities. She can never go back to the public school because the school cannot/will not educate her. Our only other choice is a school like Springer, which we cannot afford. The default choice then becomes to educate her ourselves or let her languish in the public school falling further and further behind. We seem to have this idea that if a kid does not show up at 7:50 am to listen to school announcements, eat in the school cafeteria , go to six different classrooms a day and have his/her own locker then they haven’t earned the right to participate in extracurricular activities. Some say that it is not “fair” that a home schooled kid gets the benefits of these activities without “earning” them. I say these kids work just as hard, if not harder than their public school peers, because they can’t get lost in the crowd. They have “earned” it. It strikes me as elitist that we say these activities are beneficial to our kids, but we only allow this benefit if you do it our way by attending the public school. Some have said that allowing the home-schooled kids to participate doesn’t feel right, feels dirty or just is not fair. I would argue that it is none of those things. Perhaps we just don’t like change. At one point it didn’t seem right that a woman should vote or a black man should be President of the United States - but it is. These kids work just as hard as their peers, they live in the district, and their parents are paying for services that they are not using (as well as paying to educate their children at home out of their own pocket). What has made our country great is the opportunity we afford every person to be all that they can be. The purpose of the public school is to provide opportunity - not deny it.

I agree, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't get a warm feeling looking at one of those pictures. Don't lose the opportunity!! I'm glad I didn't.

You sir have no idea what class is as evidenced by your rant. 45 point lead in the second half mandates the running clock. That's the goal and nothing else! How many points did Beechwood score in the second half? I get your point and I don't care if you respect me or not your point is totally wrong. Rash is a class act. My son graduated last year and I can tell you no one except the coaches spent more time at practice than I did. I have heard head coaches tell their players that if someone cheap shots you, you cheap shot them harder. That attitude is never tolerated by coach Rash. He teaches his players to play hard but with honor and integrity. There is no honor in humiliating an inferior opponent. If you had watched Beechwood throughout the year this is nothing new. Get to the running clock and then call off the dogs. You may not like it but there is nothing CLASSLESS about it.

I thought this was the poorest game I have seen the Tigers play all year. They did not execute well. They did not show a lot of emotion. They were just flat! This was not the Beechwood team we have watched all year. It was exciting to see the TC players down by 4 touchdowns showing a lot of heart and emotion. After the first quarter I thought that TC played quite well compared to the other class A teams we have played.

Your memory seems a little better than mine. That pass play seems vaguely familiar. I just remember he didn't score and half the crowd went crazy. Is just me or do the crowds seem to be smaller and less enthusiastic than 10-15 years ago?

That goal line stand ranks right up there with the Beechwood-Dayon playoff game in the mid 90's. Fourth and goal from the one clock running out. If Dayton scores they win and move on. Everyone in the house knows it's going to Jason Skirvins (I believe that was his name). The kid was an INCREDIBLE athlete. Short story he gets the ball and Beechwood holds. Crowd goes crazy.

I don't know if you have ever played the game, but I can assure you that no one intentionally tries to rip an opposing players helmet off his head. I thought the young man (there are no children out there) showed a lot of heart and determination fighting for every yard he could get even without his helmet.

If you are going to quote something get it right. We (me included) were not happy with a facemask call when it appeared clear to us that the helmet was not grabbed by the facemask. No one was saying FAKER FAKER, I'm not even sure how you would fake having your helmet ripped off your head.

Yes, final 36-21

Ok guys I can't stand it. It's Tuesday and no talk about the biggest small school game in the state? Recent history indicates that the visitor has the edge. My prediction BW 28 NCC 21

Not having seen the 91 team as that was the year I moved here. I would have to give the nod to the 97 team.

There were several Beechwood starters sick in the first game. Some tried to play while others watched. As you can see by the score it didn't make much of a difference. I'm actually hoping Bellevue brings their A game as it is pretty boring watching a lopsided win. Unless of course it is against NewCath