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7 Bowling Green 5 Mayfield 3 Highlands 2 Central 1 Glasgow TB: Highlands

5 Mayfield 3 Central 3 Belfry 1 Anderson 1 Franklin-Simpson 1 Glasgow 1 Holy Cross 1 Hazard 1 Scott 1 Highlands TB: 27 points

7 Belfry 5 Franklin-Simpson 3 Holy Cross 2 Mayfield 1 Anderson TB: Anderson

5 Tilghman 3 O'boro Catholic 3 Collins 1 Lafayette 1 Henderson 1 Harlan 1 Bowling Green 1 Lex Catholic 1 Mayfield 1 Garrard TB: 57 points

7 O-Cath 5 Garrard 3 Collins 2 Harlan 1 Henderson TB: Harlan

5 Scott 3 Boyle 3 Frankfort 1 Eastern 1 Lafayette 1 Glasgow 1 J-town 1 Fort Campbell 1 Warren Cent 1 PRP TB: 81 points

7 Scott 5 Glasgow 3 Warren Cent 2 Eastern 1 Lafayette TB: Warren Cent TB:

Very good win for Lincoln, which was 0-5 at one time. Kept a very good LCC passing game in check. This can't be explained, though: LCC was down 7 with 3:20 and 2 timeouts left, facing fourth-and-17 at its own 47, which became fourth-and-22 after a delay of game flag. Why on earth would you punt the ball away? No way you can get it back in much of a position to do anything with it, and in fact they didn't get it back at all.

Still, a good showing for Casey against a team that is probably going all the way again. End of the line for a Casey senior class that was much more successful than most there.

Yes, it is left up to them, and I suppose the fact that it must be agreed upon is part of what keeps the tickets somewhat reasonable. ADs from both sides can talk about what's normal for their school or their area. And I'm sure you're right about the no-passes rule helping to boost the gate, because pretty much every regular-season game probably has an awful lot of people in the stands who got in for free. I'd think you could lose hundreds of dollars on that, at least in the later rounds.

It's in the playoff instructions, not the tournament rules, and not that easy to find. I only know where it is because I've had to read it a bunch of times. And there isn't actually much said about admission charges. It's part of a provision that says the two schools must discuss and agree on a number of things. Here's part of the text: The representatives of the two schools involved shall discuss and must agree in advance on all items incidental to playing the game including: 4) The price of admission, the number of passes for each school and the distribution of reserved seats (if any); FWIW, there's also this on gate receipts: 9) The financial distribution of gate receipts. The proceeds of all playoff games, with the exception of the final game in each class, will be used to defray the expenses of the visiting team, officials, trophies, and other necessary expenses. And in another section called "Agreement on Finances:" There are two common methods of dividing the proceeds of the playoff games. 1) The first and more commonly used method is to simply split the gate receipts after the payment of the trophy bill and the cost of officials. In addition, for the fourth round, many schools agree to allow a fixed rate mileage allowance prior to making this division of the gate. This encourages the visiting team to minimize the travel expenses and the home team to control game costs and eliminates the perception of inflated costs by either the traveling team or home management. 2) The second method is a split of the gate after agreed expenses, which would involve: -- Allow for the cost of the trophies and the game officials’ -- Determine and agree in advance on the expenses of the home team for staging the game including charges for police and security, ticket sellers and takers, P.A. announcer, dressing room attendants, parking, ushers, statistics, etc.; -- Determine and agree in advance on the expense allowance for the visiting team for mileage, meals and lodging if applicable. If no other agreement can be reached, using the state expense allowance is recommended; -- Split the balance between the two teams after payment for the three items listed above; If no agreement exists in advance, method (1) as detailed below shall govern the finances.

"Trust me, you do NOT want to be in that pile."

"How was it Lucy told me to do this?"

7 LCA 5 Boone 3 Bryan Sta 2 Male 1 Owensboro TB: Bryan Sta

5 Ryle 3 Glasgow 3 Frankfort 1 Bryan Sta 1 Boone 1 Letcher 1 Owensboro 1 Male 1 Danville 1 LCA TB: 83 points

I was at a game in Bowling Green when I heard it through the grapevine. Couldn't believe they hadn't gotten it backward.

I remember that, too. I think X=Fort Knox in that equation.

I'm not 100 percent sure I'm right, but I believe that's what I was told once; at the very least, I'm sure they're related. Check out a photo of Ozz on the BOC page in one of your KHSAA programs and you can see the resemblance. I think they're from in or around Williamson, W.Va., as is Allan Hatcher, whom Jackson worked for at Marshall County. Ozz has spent most or all of his career in or near Whitesburg, I think.

They tried that 4 or 5 years ago in an effort to cut the early-round travel, and coaches (and most of the rest of us) pretty much hated it across the board.

Useless nugget: If I'm not mistaken, the two schools' athletic directors are brothers.

No one who hasn't turned 18 yet was even alive when that game was played.

No, I see what you're saying now. It's my bad.:thumb: But to complicate matters more, and the reason I clicked on this thread in the first place, I was looking up something on Wales just yesterday and saw a post on Jody Demling's C-J blog updating Jude and Wales' chase of Homer. (http://blogs.courier-journal.com/jodydemling/2011/10/31/chasing-derek-homer-2/) Apparently he's been doing these updates weekly, at least of late, and he has Jude at minus-110 yards and Wales at minus-578 from the magic number. Now I wonder where he's getting his numbers.

I apologize if I read it wrong, but I got from this that the WSIP total and the Johnson Central total are 2 different numbers.

They can't both be accurate, can they?

Football is the only KHSAA sport (team or individual) in which you have to qualify for the postseason. And while I think it cheapens the regular season in those other team sports to have everyone in the postseason, that ship has sailed. So if you must qualify for football, then it shouldn't be so easy that 80 to 85 percent of the participating schools can do it. If you're not making the playoffs in this system, you're not trying very hard. (And some of those who are making the playoffs don't seem to be trying very hard, either.) Anything that could be done to make it more difficult to get in would add value to the season. I like the idea of going to the two-team qualifying system, but that will NEVER happen. I even like the three-team qualifier proposed earlier in the thread. At the very least, they should instill this rule: any team going 0-10 doesn't get in. Period. Just write in a bye where they would've played. As it is, we might as well go to the Indiana system Bluegrasscard discussed: Just let everyone into the playoffs and lop off one regular-season game. With all of that said, however, I don't think anything will be done now, later or probably ever to reduce the number of teams that get to make the playoffs. On a related note, I still have not read or heard an explanation as to why the KHSAA capped 1A and 6A at 32 teams. While many teams in 2A through 5A have to fight it out to be among that 80 or 85 percent in the playoffs, no one in 1A or 6A has to lift a finger, and that couldn't be more unfair. Why should it be easier for those schools to qualify (and easier to advance because you're going to get weaker No. 4 seeds)? If I were a coach or AD in one of the middle classes, I would have been screaming from the rooftop about this, but I didn't really hear anyone doing that.