Why, because I don't have sympathy for people that gorge themselves to that state?

 

Medical conditions that cause people to be overweight? Yep, I feel sorry for them. Those that get that way because of laziness and eating habits, sorry, no sympathy from me.

 

And you can tell the difference just by looking at them?

^Where did I say that?

Before anyone asks, I'll put this in here straight from Discovery's website.

 

Following years of over-eating and an unhealthy lifestyle, Manuel Uribe has been confined to his bed for the past 5 years. After a television plea for help in January 2006, Manuel was inundated with offers from surgeons, doctors and dieticians from around the world.

 

So, he doesn't fly.

 

Look, I've been flying at least once a year since 1981. I have NEVER encountered anyone who was as heavy as those shown in the pics. I've had plenty of tall annoying people, fat annoying people, skinny annoying people, young annyoing people and old annoying people seated next to me throughout the years. It just is what it is. And I've been all time-lengths of flights. Often, those who look "normal" are the most obnoxious. Ya'll will think I'm crazy, but I usually actually seek out the people who no one seems to be sitting next to, because usually they leave me alone, or I discover hidden gems of people who make my flight better.

^Where did I say that?

 

Well, how can you distinguish who to give your disgust to just by looking at them? You're willing to lump all fat people into the same pile of poo, and decide you don't want them seated next to you, without regard or even the interest to know what causes their obesity.

^I've said whether it's a medical condition or laziness, when it comes to flying, they should still have to buy two tickets if they infringe on my space. If I'm flying, I could care less the cause. If you take up more than one seat, you buy more than one ticket. That goes for extremely tall people as well.

 

Where did I ever say anything about not feeling sorry for those that can't help it? Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

^I've said whether it's a medical condition or laziness, when it comes to flying, they should still have to buy two tickets if they infringe on my space. If I'm flying, I could care less the cause. If you take up more than one seat, you buy more than one ticket. That goes for extremely tall people as well.

 

Where did I ever say anything about not feeling sorry for those that can't help it? Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

 

I don't see any distinguishing remark here:

 

I would argue that this whole is issue is based around customer service, or lack their of. They should do everything in their power to allow a passenger to have the seat and space they purchase. To allow the guy that can't lay off the donuts to "overflow" into your seat is pathetic customer service.

Technically speaking, the airlines consider their product to be "space" on a flight. When we made sales at Delta, we always referred to it as "selling space." They make quite a big deal about leg room, seat pitch and width. It's a selling point and the basis of their product. That said, if an airline wishes to accomodate someone of exceptional girth, they need to bite the bullet and give them two seats. Otherwise, don't sell them the ticket.

 

Also, I'm not sure what the current status of obesity being considered a disability, but if it is, they would be required to give an obese passenger two seats anyway.

I guess I'll have to ask again RM...Where did I ever once say I don't feel sorry for those that can't help it?

So, he doesn't fly.

 

Look, I've been flying at least once a year since 1981. I have NEVER encountered anyone who was as heavy as those shown in the pics. I've had plenty of tall annoying people, fat annoying people, skinny annoying people, young annyoing people and old annoying people seated next to me throughout the years. It just is what it is. And I've been all time-lengths of flights. Often, those who look "normal" are the most obnoxious. Ya'll will think I'm crazy, but I usually actually seek out the people who no one seems to be sitting next to, because usually they leave me alone, or I discover hidden gems of people who make my flight better.

One guy did encounter someone as heavy as the person shown in the first picture. Are you failing to recognize that?

I guess I'll have to ask again RM...Where did I ever once say I don't feel sorry for those that can't help it?

 

Ahhh...yes.....the old "make generalizations and then try to look compassionate by saying you don't feel sorry for a specific sub-group" tactic. :lol:

 

Maybe someday you'll understand that often it's what you don't say that says the most.

Technically speaking, the airlines consider their product to be "space" on a flight. When we made sales at Delta, we always referred to it as "selling space." They make quite a big deal about leg room, seat pitch and width. It's a selling point and the basis of their product. That said, if an airline wishes to accomodate someone of exceptional girth, they need to bite the bullet and give them two seats. Otherwise, don't sell them the ticket.

By this it seems like I am buying space. Thus, shouldn't I be entitled to have that space to myself and not have someone else sharing it with me?

One guy did encounter someone as heavy as the people shown in the first picture. Are you failing to recognize that?

 

What I am NOT failing to recognize is that this situation is an exception, but one that many on here seem to want to use to impose new, subjective, discriminatory regulations upon a much wider audience.

I guess I'll have to ask again RM...Where did I ever once say I don't feel sorry for those that can't help it?

 

When you make a comment about telling a guy to "lay off the donuts" it's hard to take that any other way.

Ahhh...yes.....the old "make generalizations and then try to look compassionate by saying you don't feel sorry for a specific sub-group" tactic. :lol:

 

Maybe someday you'll understand that often it's what you don't say that says the most.

 

:lol: Why in the world in a topic of whether or not an overweight person should have to buy multiple seats on a plane, should I divulge into my feelings towards obese or overweight people? You'll notice that I didn't go into that until you made an ignorant comment about me. At that point, I clearly stated my position. I never once said "I have no sympathy for overweight people". I said I don't have sympathy for those that are overweight because of THEIR poor choices.

What I am NOT failing to recognize is that this situation is an exception, but one that many on here seem to want to use to impose new, subjective, discriminatory regulations upon a much wider audience.

It's an exception based upon YOUR experience. Maybe some of our experiences are different than that. You seem to want to use your personal experience as the barometer, yet meanwhile ignoring a documented example of the exact type of situation I and many others are referring to.

 

I also don't see how this has to be subjective, as has been discussed you can make a very objective guideline to take care of the issue. Finally, cwf has already pointed out that the regulations many of us our asking for aren't new and are in fact already in place by several airlines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. It took every ounce of strength I had to leave this alone.

 

upon a much wider audience.