ACE Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Bottom line is Raceland hit the big shots when they needed them and Rose Hill missed something like 8 free throws in a row in the second half. Raceland deserved this win. Rose Hill hasn't yet learned how to win. When they do learn they will be tough. Fraley has conducted himself with class throughout his tenure at Rose Hill. He is always very intense and into the game. I remember 2 years ago in his first year when Rose Hill was getting beat to death, down by 50 or more late in the game against Lawrence County, Fraley was coaching as hard then as he is now. He earned my respect then, I will now give him the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyp Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I made a simple statement about the officiating and folks feel attacked. Maybe they are all a bit paranoid. Don't recall stating that the calls were against or for the Rams. You know spindoc that's a good point. Listen, officiating didn't cost Rose Hill this game, it didn't help them but it wasn't the deciding factor. The younger official didn't make one call against Raceland the entire 4th quarter. Johnson had him scared to death. But like I said, make free throws and it's all academic. For Raceland I thought Osborne(?) was just fantastic. Rose Hill defector Jacob Sparks also played very well, he is going to be a fine player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyp Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 That's why there are 2 whistles on the floor, if they see it...call it. Thought Jackson walked when he slid on the floor while holding the ball, illegal screen by Bush to free up Euton on the final shot, push off on Euton to get open. :cry: Apparently Bush didn't move enough on the screen he set seeing as how Euton got his shot blocked. Eagle, did you think Bush got fouled on the layup when Rose Hill was down by 2? Did you think that Raceland called timeout before the held ball in the final seconds? Just curious, since you seem to be very objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyp Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Fraley has conducted himself with class throughout his tenure at Rose Hill. He is always very intense and into the game. I remember 2 years ago in his first year when Rose Hill was getting beat to death, down by 50 or more late in the game against Lawrence County, Fraley was coaching as hard then as he is now. He earned my respect then, I will now give him the benefit of the doubt. Tim, has been nothing but a fine representitive for Rose Hill since he signed on 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 I will say I was impressed by the play of the Tolliver boy. He has an extra gear and distributes the ball very well. He reminds me of another former Ram, now the head coach at Rock Hill, Marty Mills. Except Mr. Mills didn't give up the ball nearly as often.(to his teammates, I mean) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle 8 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Apparently Bush didn't move enough on the screen he set seeing as how Euton got his shot blocked. Eagle, did you think Bush got fouled on the layup when Rose Hill was down by 2? Did you think that Raceland called timeout before the held ball in the final seconds? Just curious, since you seem to be very objective. yes and yes Lots of calls could have went the other way but appeared to even out. FT's were the deciding factor not officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle 8 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I will say I was impressed by the play of the Tolliver boy. He has an extra gear and distributes the ball very well. He reminds me of another former Ram, now the head coach at Rock Hill, Marty Mills. Except Mr. Mills didn't give up the ball nearly as often.(to his teammates, I mean) No gear in the Mills transmission could match this quickness. Speed maybe, not quickness. By the way Doc, sometimes people jump to conclusions when the losing team mentions officiating and it's hard not to read into it just a little. :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 No gear in the Mills transmission could match this quickness. Speed maybe, not quickness. By the way Doc, sometimes people jump to conclusions when the losing team mentions officiating and it's hard not to read into it just a little. :thumb: never said I represented the losing team. Nor the winning team. Only that the officiating stunk and I thought the Euton kid got fouled on the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyp Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 yes and yes Lots of calls could have went the other way but appeared to even out. FT's were the deciding factor not officiating. I agree about the FT's. No question that killed the Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ricky P, just curious as to what do you think that the whole tyrade at the end of the game meant? Do you think that the throat slash meant the referees won't be welcome at the Fraley Christmas Party or that the Maroon Mafia may be contracted for services? :flame: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statmaster Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 never said I represented the losing team. Nor the winning team. Only that the officiating stunk and I thought the Euton kid got fouled on the 3. I asked the kid who blocked the shot(Miller). He said he had no contact with Euton on the shot. Said he got it after it left his hands. Euton didnt see him coming and so, got no lift on his shot. I agree the Bush kid was foul just earlier on his layup, but no foul on the last shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 I asked the kid who blocked the shot(Miller). He said he had no contact with Euton on the shot. Said he got it after it left his hands. Euton didnt see him coming and so, got no lift on his shot. I agree the Bush kid was foul just earlier on his layup, but no foul on the last shot. Fair enough, I'm just saying it looked like he got him with the body, but either way, can you say honestly that you thought the game was officiated well? Not biased toward one or the other, just poorly officiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVILPRIDE78 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Good job Rams. All I am saying is no matter what sport. I have seen very poor sportmanship from RH coaches,not players, and I have been an official while they were playing and been to some games while they where playing and it is usually the same. Refs Refs Refs Give us a break. Play the game and be positive or put on some black & white strips. :fire: :fire: :fire: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlandTomcat41 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Nice to see a little controversy. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Good job Rams. All I am saying is no matter what sport. I have seen very poor sportmanship from RH coaches,not players, and I have been an official while they were playing and been to some games while they where playing and it is usually the same. Refs Refs Refs Give us a break. Play the game and be positive or put on some black & white strips. :fire: :fire: :fire: PLEASE, tell me you are not a Russell fan hacking on RH for sportsmanship. :argue: Red Devils.. The undisputed kings of poor sportsmanship. Now let's not go there. Your laundry list of issues would start an entirely new thread. And unless you were there you don't know how anyone acted. As for the officials, looks like your "top-ranked" devils could use some officiating help! :sssh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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