Took me a lot of years to remember all of this. Going to take a while to learn the new stuff.

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/05/catholic-mass_n_1077815.html

Wow...I go to mass each week. How have I not heard about this?

The "new" translation sounds pretty close to the Latin translations I learned in the early 60s, so it isn't that strange to me. Most languages don't translate very well if you insist on a very literal translation. Both sides are right. Parts of it are poetic and beautiful. Parts of it sound really strange.

Wow...I go to mass each week. How have I not heard about this?

 

Does your parish not have the big plastic cards in the pew? I've been to 3 different churches over the last month and have seen them there.

Does your parish not have the big plastic cards in the pew? I've been to 3 different churches over the last month and have seen them there.

 

Well admittedly, there are occasions when I could be very accurately likened to the absent minded professor (in fact, that would be one of my nicknames around in office). I may have honestly just completely not noticed that they were even there.

I wouldn't object to the Latin Mass becoming more common than it is now. Frankly though I would just be happy if this has an impact on the abomination that has become music in the Catholic church.

Wow...I go to mass each week. How have I not heard about this?

 

Don't let the bishop know what parish you belong or your pastor may be in for a trip to the woodshed:D

I haven't been to a Novus Ordo mass in English since last Christmas but I did grow up in a parish where that was all we had. I haven't really read much of the new translation and I'm looking forward to getting everything wrong when I go to Midnight Mass at Christmas with my family. Maybe it's time to invest in a new missal.

The "new" translation sounds pretty close to the Latin translations I learned in the early 60s, so it isn't that strange to me. Most languages don't translate very well if you insist on a very literal translation. Both sides are right. Parts of it are poetic and beautiful. Parts of it sound really strange.

That was a big part of the reason it is changing. They want to try to capture the intent of the original Latim more closely. This has been coming for the past year or so. If you get the Messenger (Everyone in the Diocese of Covington gets it) they have had weekly articles about it with full explanations. They're supposed to be passing out cards in the pews over the next several weeks. Our pastor had rather lengthy homily about the changes this past Sunday. I'm sure there will be many more to come.

I wouldn't object to the Latin Mass becoming more common than it is now. Frankly though I would just be happy if this has an impact on the abomination that has become music in the Catholic church.

Purist!

 

 

I feel we'll hear a lot of mumbling for quite a while.

As a young teenager I lived through the huge changes of Vatican II and to be honest, I loved the new Mass as it made me feel much more a part of the worship.

 

Prior to Vatican II, as a kid serving Mass and one who knew enough Latin to just get me in trouble, I knew my Parish Priest at the 6am Mass that I served almost daily went through the motions more times than not (my Dad attended 6am Mass daily and since he went, he volunteered us to serve the 6am Mass almost daily too) but once the Mass went to English and the Priest had to face the people attending Mass, he slowed down and actually seemed to care more about the worship.

 

From what I have been able to gather about the New Mass, it is going to be a stricter language of the old Latin Mass but it won't be in the language we use daily. I think there will be a lot of complaining and as Clyde said, a lot of mumbling for quite a while!

As a young teenager I lived through the huge changes of Vatican II and to be honest, I loved the new Mass as it made me feel much more a part of the worship.

 

Prior to Vatican II, as a kid serving Mass and one who knew enough Latin to just get me in trouble, I knew my Parish Priest at the 6am Mass that I served almost daily went through the motions more times than not (my Dad attended 6am Mass daily and since he went, he volunteered us to serve the 6am Mass almost daily too) but once the Mass went to English and the Priest had to face the people attending Mass, he slowed down and actually seemed to care more about the worship.

 

From what I have been able to gather about the New Mass, it is going to be a stricter language of the old Latin Mass but it won't be in the language we use daily. I think there will be a lot of complaining and as Clyde said, a lot of mumbling for quite a while!

 

I've heard a lot of stories about people who loved the changes after the Novus Ordo began in the 1970s. It's a very common tale.

 

For me, on the other hand, I attended a Tridentine Mass for the very first time when I was in college. Both then and quite often since, I've had occasional feeling of resentment about the parish I grew up in and feel as though I got cheated out of something truly beautiful and that the liturgical life I grew up with was a pale imitation of the one I could have had.

I've heard a lot of stories about people who loved the changes after the Novus Ordo began in the 1970s. It's a very common tale.

 

For me, on the other hand, I attended a Tridentine Mass for the very first time when I was in college. Both then and quite often since, I've had occasional feeling of resentment about the parish I grew up in and feel as though I got cheated out of something truly beautiful and that the liturgical life I grew up with was a pale imitation of the one I could have had.

 

I can understand your opinion but the Latin Mass done daily was just a Mass IMHO that many Priest just went through the motions because "We the People" really weren't a part of the Mass only the Priest was and we just happened to be in attendance. Me? I love the Holy Thursday Mass with all the pomp and such.

 

I love how you can attend Mass today and actually be a active participant in the Mass unlike back in the day, when you were treated like a child who were seen but not heard!

^ With everything done properly, the Novus Ordo can have remarkable solemnity and beauty. Here in Louisville there are numerous NO churches that have wonderful masses every weekend. The atmosphere and the ambiance can help create a feeling of solemnity that, unfortunately, is not something seemingly important to those in charge at a lot of NO parishes; if the "participation" I've seen at most masses I've been to throughout my entire life is what we're aiming for, then I don't know that it's working. Instead of going somewhere to pray, it's a 55-minute show. It's part of what makes mass such a miserable experience at these churches for me. Take the following two videos. I'll take the first over the second every single time.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly0WUDzkB7M