Not sure what you are looking for in him after 17 games.

 

I can tell you what he has done.

 

1. Had a winning season in his first year.

2. Landed a top 20 recruiting class in his first year.

3. Improved the level of play on defense and offense.

4. Over all value of the football program has improved.

 

He has two more years of Kragthorpes players on this team. They are not very talented in this JR/SR classes.

 

More quality recruiting along with the development of current players. Year 3 will be a good time to judge if UL has made real progress and Year 5 he will be graded on if he can coach or not. I believe every coach deserves 5 years.

 

I agree with this completely, I believe that Louisville will be much better in the next two years. As painful as it may to bring up, the program was on a completely different level when Petrino left and still to this day believe that the decision was made far too quickly with bringing Kragthorpe in. With the way the program collapsed under Kragthorpe's time, I didn't expect an overnight difference when Strong came in.

I don't follow UL all that close so I am not so sure about their bowl hopes. I do know that all were hearing about U.K. and how the Cats were going to "take the next step" and could contend in the SEC East, how the O line was so good and look at what we got.

Bottom line is that both UL and UK are pretty bad football teams. I actually think that UL will improve more and quicker than UK. I like C. Strong and think that he will get the Cards on the right track/bring better players in and continue to get better.

On the the other hand Joker has not brought in any or enough talent for UK to compete in D1, espescially in the SEC. I am talking about Joker's recruiting, or lack there of, bc he has been in the program for years and was known as a great recruiter. So what I am saying is that Joker has brought the talent that UK has got now even though he has not been the head coach all that long.

On a side note about the recruiting......and alot of UK fans were all over Tubby Smith about terrible recruiting,:lol:. That comparison just shows how far more emphasis is put on basketball at UK, imo the administration and fan base are satisfied with mediocrity in football.......... Example: UK can go to a lousy 6 win bowl game every few years or so and that is good enough. Let UK basketball miss the NCAA tourney and go to the N.I.T. and watch the fireworks.

 

Your points about UK are spot on and we were debating this in another thread to do with them joining the ACC conference. As long as completely different changes in the people of their sports administration is not changed, as well as their future visions, it will always remain that way. The football program will always be in the back seat.

I have my doubts about Strong, and I expected the team to be a little better than what I've witnessed to date. But, the points you make are fair. We'll see.

I think that is legit question. That is 2 losses now to a mid-major team. FIU is pretty solid despite losing to Duke yesterday. Marshall is a middle of the road Conference USA team. UL is not that good, but I think it should expected given their roster. It will get better, but the head coaching abilities of Strong are still in limbo. I think he'll get it done.

I think that is legit question. That is 2 losses now to a mid-major team. FIU is pretty solid despite losing to Duke yesterday. Marshall is a middle of the road Conference USA team. UL is not that good, but I think it should expected given their roster. It will get better, but the head coaching abilities of Strong are still in limbo. I think he'll get it done.

 

Talent level is not close to D-1 roster. Still has 3 years of Kragthorps kids. He recruited kids that couldn't play dead at a Funreal Home.

From what I've seen, the Cardinals are suffering from the loss of that offensive line, that graduated last year. For selfish reasons, I do not want them to get better, but I have this sneaking suspicion that Charlie may well get it done.

Talent level is not close to D-1 roster.

Maybe not a roster full of D-1 experienced players with much coaching from Krags or ability to win a BCS conference, but they are D-1 caliber. The difference between a D-1 roster and a lower division roster is night and day.

From what I've seen, the Cardinals are suffering from the loss of that offensive line, that graduated last year. For selfish reasons, I do not want them to get better, but I have this sneaking suspicion that Charlie may well get it done.

The OL came in with no experience and it shows.