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Class 4A Rankings 9-28

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This week is a chance for Boyle County to make a statement.

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This week is a chance for Boyle County to make a statement.

 

Agreed. There are two huge games in 4A this week that could give us a better idea of how the postseason could shape up.

It's pretty simple, beat a quality team (like Rockcastle) and your team will be ranked. Lose and your team won't be ranked.

 

Still waiting for you to answer my question where you think they belong in the current rankings.

Okay NamecipS. I don'tlike to knock teams so I will leavethe name out......blow-out loss 46-3. loss 32-27......victories over teams that are 2-4, 1-5. 3-2, 0-6. I see no statement wins, a blow-out loss and a 4-2 record.......numbers don't add up but a better name recognition. How else will you justify this one.COMPARE TO 6-0, ALL WINS OVER TEAMS 2-4, 3-3, 1-4, 3-3, 2-3, 2-3. Send this to any of your polling friends with names hidden and see where they would put each team.
It's pretty simple, beat a quality team (like Rockcastle) and your team will be ranked. Lose and your team won't be ranked.

 

Still waiting for you to answer my question where you think they belong in the current rankings.

Let,s go again.....team with blow-out loss 20-0, and victories over 1-4, 3-2, 0-6, 2-3. and 2-4......now once again a GOOD BLOW-OUT LOSS...combined I guess with beating "a quality team" of 3-2 or maybe 2-3 definitely puts this team in! Come on guys, once again "im not saying Russell County is better but based on the NUMBERS AND RECORDS ,Russsell should have been there. Name recognition is more important to you.

As I said above, I would have had Russell County in the top 10 and that team you listed is the one I would have swapped them out with. I would wager the reason they're not is that the blow-out loss followed a crisis week for the program where they lost their two best players days before the game and the 32-27 loss was to a consensus top 10 team regardless of class.

 

I won't put words in your mouth, only ask you a question - if the 46-3 loss had been to say, Trinity, would that make any difference in how you considered it? It would for me, which is why the pure drop the names and look at the numbers approach doesn't work for me.

As I said above, I would have had Russell County in the top 10 and that team you listed is the one I would have swapped them out with. I would wager the reason they're not is that the blow-out loss followed a crisis week for the program where they lost their two best players days before the game and the 32-27 loss was to a consensus top 10 team regardless of class.

 

I won't put words in your mouth, only ask you a question - if the 46-3 loss had been to say, Trinity, would that make any difference in how you considered it? It would for me, which is why the pure drop the names and look at the numbers approach doesn't work for me.

Think what you are saying.....Namecips said "beat a quality team"[ which neither of these teams have done ] "and your team will be ranked" And He also said "lose and you wont be ranked" [which both these teams have done]. His qualifications , that are quotes, don't fit for these ranked teams. Name recognition.
Okay NamecipS. I don'tlike to knock teams so I will leavethe name out......blow-out loss 46-3. loss 32-27......victories over teams that are 2-4, 1-5. 3-2, 0-6. I see no statement wins, a blow-out loss and a 4-2 record.......numbers don't add up but a better name recognition. How else will you justify this one.COMPARE TO 6-0, ALL WINS OVER TEAMS 2-4, 3-3, 1-4, 3-3, 2-3, 2-3. Send this to any of your polling friends with names hidden and see where they would put each team.

 

32-27 loss to a Top 3 team in a bigger class that played in the state championship last year. The blowout loss you refer to was a fluke.

Think what you are saying.....Namecips said "beat a quality team"[ which neither of these teams have done ] "and your team will be ranked" And He also said "lose and you wont be ranked" [which both these teams have done]. His qualifications , that are quotes, don't fit for these ranked teams. Name recognition.

 

It was more of a general question following up what was said earlier rather than anything related to what Namecips said. I don't necessarily think you have to beat a team considered to be "quality" to get ranked, though it certainly helps and it makes it much easier to make a determination of who is better. What does hurt is when there is no team that has been played to give you any sort of reading.

Let,s go again.....team with blow-out loss 20-0, and victories over 1-4, 3-2, 0-6, 2-3. and 2-4......now once again a GOOD BLOW-OUT LOSS...combined I guess with beating "a quality team" of 3-2 or maybe 2-3 definitely puts this team in! Come on guys, once again "im not saying Russell County is better but based on the NUMBERS AND RECORDS ,Russsell should have been there. Name recognition is more important to you.

 

No, that's not what I said. Quality wins and losses count. Russell Cty has yet to play a team that's in any Top 10 rankings in any class.

 

Again, who have you beat that would be considered a quality team?

 

Beat Rockcastle and the rankings will come. Lose and no one is going to rank you based on that schedule.

It was more of a general question following up what was said earlier rather than anything related to what Namecips said. I don't necessarily think you have to beat a team considered to be "quality" to get ranked, though it certainly helps and it makes it much easier to make a determination of who is better.

 

Going 10-0 on a soft schedule isn't as impressive as going 5-5 with the hardest schedule in the state. That example might not fit in this case, but I do think you have to play teams that are considered playoff contenders(quality teams) to get the respect and rankings.

As I said above, I would have had Russell County in the top 10 and that team you listed is the one I would have swapped them out with. I would wager the reason they're not is that the blow-out loss followed a crisis week for the program where they lost their two best players days before the game and the 32-27 loss was to a consensus top 10 team regardless of class.

 

I won't put words in your mouth, only ask you a question - if the 46-3 loss had been to say, Trinity, would that make any difference in how you considered it? It would for me, which is why the pure drop the names and look at the numbers approach doesn't work for me.

You are absolutely RIGHT that' drop the names' doesn't work but your argument where one looks at losses to ranked teams as a plus doesn't work either. As my argument from the very start there are different rules based on the name of the school. It is not a mistake to rank a less known team with a superior record {IMO} over a better known team that is not doing as well this year.
Going 10-0 on a soft schedule isn't as impressive as going 5-5 with the hardest schedule in the state. That example might not fit in this case, but I do think you have to play teams that are considered playoff contenders(quality teams) to get the respect and rankings.

 

Yeah, I edited it after initial post to add "What does hurt is when there is no team that has been played to give you any sort of reading. " It was incomplete just to say you don't have to beat a team considered quality.

Going 10-0 on a soft schedule isn't as impressive as going 5-5 with the hardest schedule in the state. That example might not fit in this case, but I do think you have to play teams that are considered playoff contenders(quality teams) to get the respect and rankings.
YOUR RIGHT......that example is not even close in this case. Teams played are very comparable with Russell's schedule maybe ahead in these cases[iMO]
Yeah, I edited it after initial post to add "What does hurt is when there is no team that has been played to give you any sort of reading. " It was incomplete just to say you don't have to beat a team considered quality.
Guys.....but shouldn't the same apply for the other teams.....they have beaten no quality teams and have an inferior record ?
You are absolutely RIGHT that' drop the names' doesn't work but your argument where one looks at losses to ranked teams as a plus doesn't work either. As my argument from the very start there are different rules based on the name of the school. It is not a mistake to rank a less known team with a superior record {IMO} over a better known team that is not doing as well this year.

 

I should be clear that a 46-3 loss is not really ever a plus in my book, only that a 46-3 loss to Trinity would not be nearly as bad as a 46-3 loss to Iroquois. Extreme example, but you get the point.

 

A 32-27 loss to Christian County is a plus for Lone Oak. I'm sorry you don't agree with that, but we will simply just not agree on that situation. Lone Oak played a team that is considered to be top 10 in the state and took them to the wire, leading for a good portion of the game. I consider that game way more important than their win over Hopkinsville, or Reidland, etc.

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