I was first put off by Gov Perry when he started playing to the worst of people in TX and talked about seceding.

I've told all my associates in Texas that if they do secede, I'm applying for citizenship in their new republic. :lol: :thumb:

If the Governor is going to talk about his jobs creation record he's going to have to explain why TX , along with MS, leads the country in having the most minimum-wage jobs. He also will have to answer how he will add jobs to every state - not just TX. He once boasted that he stole 153 companies from California alone .

 

Saying Gov Perry is the right guy because of the job market in TX is like saying the son who takes over his dad's already successful family business should be an economic adviser. TX has so much going for it when it comes to jobs that as long as the Governor doesn't screw it up it will be fine.

 

Let's see what his job creation ideas are. The entire nation isn't sitting on oil, filled with relatively low housing costs, based in the south where people want to move, and next to thousands and thousands of immigrants looking for work.

 

Again, it's early so we have no idea what he will propose but let's take an intelligent look at the jobs situation in TX.

I've told all my associates in Texas that if they do secede, I'm applying for citizenship in their new republic. :lol: :thumb:

 

He's obviously free to offer his opinion as to the current state of affairs. However, don't say in one breath that President Obama should be in love with America and then say later that the country is so screwed up that he may need to have TX secede.

 

And , yes, I know he wasn't really going to advocate that but when you say that you're showing me that you'll say anything to play to your base.

...but when you say that you're showing me that you'll say anything to play to your base.

Unlike any other politician or entertainer out there... :lol:

 

I have yet to weigh in on Rick Perry one way or another. What I do know is that the state of Texas is doing far better economically than virtually any other state in the union. People are working, infrastructure projects are getting done, businesses and industries are relocating there. The population and tax base are expanding. There's no way one person could accomplish all this... in four years or 400 years. The policies making this growth possible must be passed by both parties in the state legislature.

 

At the very least, it is fair to say that Perry has had the good sense not to screw things up... which is more than I can say for the dogmatic ideologue we currently have in the White House.

Unlike any other politician or entertainer out there... :lol:

 

I have yet to weigh in on Rick Perry one way or another. What I do know is that the state of Texas is doing far better economically than virtually any other state in the union. People are working, infrastructure projects are getting done, businesses and industries are relocating there. The population and tax base are expanding. There's no way one person could accomplish all this... in four years or 400 years. The policies making this growth possible must be passed by both parties in the state legislature.

 

At the very least, it is fair to say that Perry has had the good sense not to screw things up... which is more than I can say for the dogmatic ideologue we currently have in the White House.

 

What is one of the reasons for our economic situation? Rising oil prices, right? Which state has benefitted tremendously from rising oil prices? Texas. Good for Texas. Glad to see someone benefitting. Again, and as you say, there are a lot of things particular to TX that does not translate to the country.

 

I'd argue that he has "screwed up a good thing" based on where they were vs where they are now if that's the way we're measuring. His fault completely? Never is but you lay the blame solely at the foot of the President for the country's situation?

Home Rule is common among local governments in Texas (i.e. we don't need the state telling us how to govern locally). That tends to be a Texas attitude. If Perry is elected, I wonder how much of his platform will be trying to return power to the state and local level and keeping the federal government out of state and local politics.

 

Many of the new jobs created in Texas are the result of the urban sprawl that overwhelmed the Dallas-Fort Worth area in the past 20 years. Homes went up at an incredible pace and there weren't many English speaking people building them.

 

I'm curious to see Perry's stance on immigration, given that Mexico's northern border now rests just below San Antonio.

IMO the conventional thinking here is more smoke than substance.

 

I don't have enough information on Perry yet to come to a conclusion such as this.

 

The President of the United States, on the other hand...

I was first put off by Gov Perry when he started playing to the worst of people in TX and talked about seceding.

 

I didn't appreciate his comment about wanting to make sure the military has a President they respect. I have no patience for anyone who doesn't show respect to the current sitting President.

 

He also plays way too far to the radical religious side. Candidate Obama had his issues with his relationship with Rev. Wright and Perry goes way past that on the religious scale.

 

We'll see. We'll learn a lot more about him, good and bad, now that he says he's in.

Amen ...

I don't have enough information on Perry yet to come to a conclusion such as this.

 

The President of the United States, on the other hand...

 

There is certainly substance with President Obama. You can't say he didn't deliver on one of his main campaign pledges ie healthcare. That's substance.

 

It's just a matter of one determining the value of that substance.

Home Rule is common among local governments in Texas (i.e. we don't need the state telling us how to govern locally). That tends to be a Texas attitude. If Perry is elected, I wonder how much of his platform will be trying to return power to the state and local level and keeping the federal government out of state and local politics.

 

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He is a huge states rights person until he's not. He said NY should be able to do their own thing in regards to gay marriage and then said we needed a Federal Marriage Amendment despite him saying that you're either for the 10th Amendment or you're not. Same with abortion - for states rights but wants a federal amendment on it.

 

It shows that we're all for getting the Federal govt out of our business until we need them to enforce something we believe in that others do not.

...but you lay the blame solely at the foot of the President for the country's situation?

I'm not so simplistic as to think our economic woes are "solely" the president's responsibility. I do however believe that his socialistic policies, (labeled as "progressive") have been detrimental to genuine economic recovery.

 

The government cannot invest, hand out, spend or otherwise distribute one dollar it does not first "take in" via taxes and fees from private citizens, private industry, foreign imports, etc. The government does not generate revenues… certainly not in the same manner private industry does. The president's insistence in pushing through initiatives that would strain the federal budget even during our richest, most productive times… during a time of economic malaise reveals a level of disconnect that is disturbing to say the least.

I'm not so simplistic as to think our economic woes are "solely" the president's responsibility. I do however believe that his socialistic policies, (labeled as "progressive") have been detrimental to genuine economic recovery.

 

The government cannot invest, hand out, spend or otherwise distribute one dollar it does not first "take in" via taxes and fees from private citizens, private industry, foreign imports, etc. The government does not generate revenues… certainly not in the same manner private industry does. The president's insistence in pushing through initiatives that would strain the federal budget even during our richest, most productive times… during a time of economic malaise reveals a level of disconnect that is disturbing to say the least.

 

Your thoughts on the 8 R candidates saying they would not accept a budget that cut spending by $10 for every $1 in tax increases?

There is certainly substance with President Obama. You can't say he didn't deliver on one of his main campaign pledges ie healthcare. That's substance.

 

It's just a matter of one determining the value of that substance.

 

Public option? Guantanamo? Reduce earmarks to the level of 1994? Comprehensive immigration? Televise health care reform talks? Repeal Bush tax cuts? Mission to moon by 2020 (or something like that)? Three million jobs created as a result of the stimulus?

 

Again, sweeping promises presented with as much style & flare as possible. But that's about it.

Public option? Guantanamo? Reduce earmarks to the level of 1994? Comprehensive immigration? Televise health care reform talks? Repeal Bush tax cuts? Mission to moon by 2020 (or something like that)? Three million jobs created as a result of the stimulus?

 

Again, sweeping promises presented with as much style & flare as possible. But that's about it.

 

Did I miss the President that got every campaign initiative through Congress?

 

Regardless, you cannot say a sitting President does not have substance. They all do. They've got 4 years of substance. You and I get to decide on the value of that substance.

Your thoughts on the 8 R candidates saying they would not accept a budget that cut spending by $10 for every $1 in tax increases?

I am unfamiliar with the mechanics of your example. To answer your question, I would need more specific information than I currently have.

 

I will say, however; I genuinely do not understand the fixation on raising taxes instead of simply cutting known areas of waste and unnecessary spending.