August 11, 201115 yr From everything I hear from the sports media, if the NCAA doesn't do anything about Texas and the ESPN Longhorn Network, then Oklahoma and Texas A & M are seriously considering jumping ship to the SEC.
August 12, 201115 yr Oklahoma may jump ship, but the SEC is not the likely destination for them according to news outlets in Ft. Worth. They are likely to head to the Big 10. Texas A&M will announce on Monday according to news outlets here in Ft. Worth that they are leaving the Big 12 to join the SEC. My understanding is that the SEC also is trying to lure Florida State from the SEC.
August 13, 201115 yr Oklahoma may jump ship, but the SEC is not the likely destination for them according to news outlets in Ft. Worth. They are likely to head to the Big 10. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State might have to be a package deal. I'm not sure the SEC would really want Oklahoma too bad and having to take OSU probably wouldn't happen.
August 13, 201115 yr Texas A&M will announce on Monday according to news outlets here in Ft. Worth that they are leaving the Big 12 to join the SEC. My understanding is that the SEC also is trying to lure Florida State from the ACC. I think Florida State could be a possibility but I've also heard Virginia Tech. Already having Florida in the SEC might be a deterrent for taking the 'Noles. A school like Virginia Tech brings good football in a state that doesn't have the SEC footprint. I also saw a tweet that suggested Missouri and even N.C. State. But who knows. A&M certainly seems like the logical first choice right now. Notice this quote from Mike Slive at the SEC Media Days: "I could get to 16 [teams] in 15 minutes." If the nation's premier football conference is really about to invite Texas A&M, it's likely as part of a grander plan. Slive knows the SEC holds all the cards in expansion and they ultimately will get first choice in the pecking order. Because of that they can have just about anyone.
August 13, 201115 yr What is really interesting is where Texas will land. It would probably behoove Texas to be an independent in football, but that's not a good deal for all of their other sports. Could a skeleton Big 12 remain? Could they pull in a couple of Conference USA teams from Texas? No matter what happens, Texas will be in control of their own destiny and whoever ends up in their league will have to play by their rules.
August 13, 201115 yr VTech isn't likely. The state legislature put pressure on UVA to vote them in to the ACC and it would ruffle a lot of feathers if they turned their back on that. No chance it is Florida State. Florida would not let it happen first off, and why would the Noles put themselves in that position when they have struggled in a very down ACC. Going to be another interesting few months with national guys throwing everything possible off the wall to see what sticks...
August 13, 201115 yr VTech isn't likely. The state legislature put pressure on UVA to vote them in to the ACC and it would ruffle a lot of feathers if they turned their back on that. No chance it is Florida State. Florida would not let it happen first off, and why would the Noles put themselves in that position when they have struggled in a very down ACC. Going to be another interesting few months with national guys throwing everything possible off the wall to see what sticks... I was thinking about that whole UVA/Va Tech deal with the governor and legislature earlier today. It basically was a midnight deal for Tech to get into the ACC. I don't think the state would be happy with them moving and I know Virginia won't want to leave the ACC. The team that I think could get some mention in all of this is Missouri. The Big 10 has shown limited interest in them and Mizzou certainly seems inclined to leave the Big 12. Gaining them would open up St. Louis and Kansas City to the SEC market, but outside of minimal rivalries with Arkansas and Texas A&M the Tigers don't seem to fit that well. In all honesty, factoring in politics and the wishes of current members, there aren't a large number of schools that really make sense for the SEC besides Texas A&M.
August 13, 201115 yr Oklahoma and Oklahoma State might have to be a package deal. I'm not sure the SEC would really want Oklahoma too bad and having to take OSU probably wouldn't happen. I think OSU is attractive because of the T. Boone Pickens dollars that they get- their athletic facilities are on par with any in the nation and their profile is increasing nationally as their programs improve. This is all my opinion, but I think OSU is VERY attractive to conferences trying to add a program, especially if OU and OSU are a package deal.
August 13, 201115 yr What is really interesting is where Texas will land. It would probably behoove Texas to be an independent in football, but that's not a good deal for all of their other sports. Could a skeleton Big 12 remain? Could they pull in a couple of Conference USA teams from Texas? No matter what happens, Texas will be in control of their own destiny and whoever ends up in their league will have to play by their rules. My only question with them going independent in football is "are you sure you can get 7 wins and be bowl eligible every year?" On face, this sounds silly (and folks may think this is silly even after I make my points), but hear me out. If Texas goes indy, they will still schedule A&M and OU as traditional rivals. They will also probably try to get 3 or 4 more games every year versus Texas schools; some combination of Tech, Baylor, Rice, Houston, UTEP, SMU and TCU. All of those games would end up being home and away series (there is a chance that the games against Texas schools could be at a neutral site like Cowboys Stadium or the Alamo Dome). They won't have trouble getting good schools to schedule them, because they are Texas. Why in the world would you schedule them if you are a small school- for the payout, right? You could get FCS teams for $500,000, but they would hurt your SOS which figures into the BCS formula still with the computers so they will probably stay away from them.This eats into their revenue gained from the new network and bowl money considerably- imagine having to pay out $750,000- $1 million dollars per game to 3 teams to guarantee some easy wins versus FBS teams from the WAC, Sun Belt or Mountain West? This could be cost prohibitive to Texas. So, you fill in with major conference teams that you hope are down, but you will have to go on the road in some years to play those teams. It could be tough to ensure 7 wins year after year if you hit a dry spot, like they did last season, for any prolonged period of time. Notre Dame has had this issue. BYU probably does not face these issues because they do not have as high a profile as Texas. Can they do it, of course- they are Texas! It would be more business savvy, however, to affiliate with a conference and feed on the bottom of that conference, only have to schedule payouts for 2 games- max (with the chance of getting FCS schools to play at least one of those games for less because they will have the BCS coference affiliation- throwing the concern I raised earlier out the window for them), and have the conference tie-ins with bowl games. I would imagine Texas would sure up that deal with the Pac 12 or find another conference partner. JMO. Edited August 13, 201115 yr by born2reign
August 13, 201115 yr VTech isn't likely. The state legislature put pressure on UVA to vote them in to the ACC and it would ruffle a lot of feathers if they turned their back on that. No chance it is Florida State. Florida would not let it happen first off, and why would the Noles put themselves in that position when they have struggled in a very down ACC. Going to be another interesting few months with national guys throwing everything possible off the wall to see what sticks... Why would Florida object, in your opinion? Also, ESPN is reporting the Florida State rumors- I know they could be wrong, but I am just throwing that in to legitimize the rumor a bit. Who would you go after to get to 16 if A&M comes in, GT- excluding Florida St.?
August 13, 201115 yr Why would Florida object, in your opinion? Also, ESPN is reporting the Florida State rumors- I know they could be wrong, but I am just throwing that in to legitimize the rumor a bit. Who would you go after to get to 16 if A&M comes in, GT- excluding Florida St.? I know you didn't direct it at me but an article I saw said one trump card Florida has in recruiting against Florida State is telling kids that picking the Gators means playing in the SEC instead of the ACC. I'm sure Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, etc. all do the same thing. That could be one reason. Also, Florida already has an annual game with Florida State so them coming to the same conference doesn't do anything for their schedule. The yearly game would be appealing to some of the other SEC teams, however. So basically it could come down to recruiting versus exposure, with Florida likely casting the deciding vote. That's why I think Florida State might not be as likely as some others.
August 13, 201115 yr I know you didn't direct it at me but an article I saw said one trump card Florida has in recruiting against Florida State is telling kids that picking the Gators means playing in the SEC instead of the ACC. I'm sure Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, etc. all do the same thing. That could be one reason. Also, Florida already has an annual game with Florida State so them coming to the same conference doesn't do anything for their schedule. The yearly game would be appealing to some of the other SEC teams. So basically it could come down to recruiting versus exposure, with Florida likely casting the deciding vote. That's why I think Florida State might not be as likely as some others. Great points- I can definitely see that.
August 13, 201115 yr VTech isn't likely. The state legislature put pressure on UVA to vote them in to the ACC and it would ruffle a lot of feathers if they turned their back on that. No chance it is Florida State. Florida would not let it happen first off, and why would the Noles put themselves in that position when they have struggled in a very down ACC. Going to be another interesting few months with national guys throwing everything possible off the wall to see what sticks... I think UF would possibly go for it. It allows them an extra home game every season, unless the league adds extra games. Even if it goes to 16 teams, that means UF makes alot of money. They have to play FSU anyway, why not let them in the conference? Recruiting is key, but financially I think it only helps UF to have FSU in there, especially if FSU is good.
August 13, 201115 yr I think UF would possibly go for it. It allows them an extra home game every season, unless the league adds extra games. Even if it goes to 16 teams, that means UF makes alot of money. They have to play FSU anyway, why not let them in the conference? Recruiting is key, but financially I think it only helps UF to have FSU in there, especially if FSU is good. Your logic is sound. With that said it will not happen. Just how things go sometimes...
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