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Heat vs. Bulls - Track the Eastern Conference Finals

Who wins? 24 members have voted

  1. 1. Who wins?

    • Bulls in 4
      4%
    • Bulls in 5
      4%
    • Bulls in 6
      12%
    • Bulls in 7
      8%
    • Heat in 4
      0%
      0
    • Heat in 5
      16%
    • Heat in 6
      41%
    • Heat in 7
      12%

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It took me litterally 2 seconds on google to find the link.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=Deng_Bryant

 

Even then, it is not clear that any trade involving Deng would be acceptable to Bryant, who is wielding the power of the NBA's only no-trade clause by threatening to veto certain deals.

 

"It's not just the Bulls and Lakers who have to be happy with this deal. Kobe does, too, and that's a major factor," the source said.

 

 

Kobe whined that he didn't want to go if Deng was in the deal because they wouldn't be good enough to win.

 

Kobe is an all time great, but he couldn't win alone. He knew it. He demanded a trade. He only backed off of that after he was told they would get him help. At the time he had Bynum and Odom who are both better than anyone LBJ played with until now. Those are the facts.

 

Glad someone found it. I sure couldn't and I googled Kobe demands trade to the Bulls and came up with the links I posted. Never found anything like this.

 

Now....as I stated earlier....no one has won by themselves. MJ came the closest and LBJ after that but LBJ bailed and went to a better superstar than Kobe ever did or ever demanded to be with or have come to LA.

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Glad someone found it. I sure couldn't and I googled Kobe demands trade to the Bulls and came up with the links I posted. Never found anything like this.

 

Now....as I stated earlier....no one has won by themselves. MJ came the closest and LBJ after that but LBJ bailed and went to a better superstar than Kobe ever did or ever demanded to be with or have come to LA.

 

How did MJ come the closest? They made the Eastern finals when he was out

Glad someone found it. I sure couldn't and I googled Kobe demands trade to the Bulls and came up with the links I posted. Never found anything like this.

 

Now....as I stated earlier....no one has won by themselves. MJ came the closest and LBJ after that but LBJ bailed and went to a better superstar than Kobe ever did or ever demanded to be with or have come to LA.

 

DWade better than early 2000's Shaq? Not in this or any lifetime IMO. For that 3 year stretch I think that only Jordan was better than Shaq in all of NBA history. I believe that if that was the Shaq of 10 years or so and not just 3 or 4, he'd be ranked at #2 right now. People forget how great Shaq really was during that run. He could have won atleast one of those with no other stars on his team IMO, he was that unstoppable.

 

And Kobe demanded the Lakers go and get Jason Kidd when Kidd was still in his prime. That is at least close to DWade as far as I'm concerned.

DWade better than early 2000's Shaq? Not in this or any lifetime IMO. For that 3 year stretch I think that only Jordan was better than Shaq in all of NBA history. I believe that if that was the Shaq of 10 years or so and not just 3 or 4, he'd be ranked at #2 right now. People forget how great Shaq really was during that run. He could have won atleast one of those with no other stars on his team IMO, he was that unstoppable.

 

And Kobe demanded the Lakers go and get Jason Kidd when Kidd was still in his prime. That is at least close to DWade as far as I'm concerned.

 

I keep forgetting about Shaq.:lol:

 

As I have said before...it doesn't matter what Kobe demanded. What matters is that he won with what they gave him...Pau Gasol. Kobe keeps getting penalized for what he asked for and never received. I am sure LBJ wants CP3 and Howard also. :D

How did MJ come the closest? They made the Eastern finals when he was out

 

 

Because MJ made Pippen and without MJ....Pippen isn't even the team's option to take the final shot....(see Toni Kukoc)

Because MJ made Pippen and without MJ....Pippen isn't even the team's option to take the final shot....(see Toni Kukoc)

 

Selective memory. That was 1 game. I seem to remember Jordan not taking every shot at the end of games. Pippen is a top 50 all time player and the Bulls made the Eastern finals when MJ retired. LBJ had Mo Williams as his best teammate ever before now and the Cavs won 19 games without him. Keep reaching

Selective memory. That was 1 game. I seem to remember Jordan not taking every shot at the end of games. Pippen is a top 50 all time player and the Bulls made the Eastern finals when MJ retired. LBJ had Mo Williams as his best teammate ever before now and the Cavs won 19 games without him. Keep reaching

 

How is it reaching? How many rings did Pippen win without MJ? He even teamed up with Barkley and Olajuwon and still couldn't get a ring. Doesn't seem like reaching to me. For as good as Pippen was at the Bulls height without MJ before this year Pippen wasn't involved in the series clinching play. I you haven't guessed I am not over inflating Pippen's value without Michael Jeffrey Jordan on the court to elevate his worth.

 

When MJ didn't take the last shot he made the correct pass to the right person at the right time. Funny, none of those passes involved the great Scottie Pippen.

Selective memory. That was 1 game. I seem to remember Jordan not taking every shot at the end of games. Pippen is a top 50 all time player and the Bulls made the Eastern finals when MJ retired. LBJ had Mo Williams as his best teammate ever before now and the Cavs won 19 games without him. Keep reaching

 

 

LBJ made the NBA Finals with Daniel Gibson as his best teammate. Who is really reaching?

How is it reaching? How many rings did Pippen win without MJ? He even teamed up with Barkley and Olajuwon and still couldn't get a ring. Doesn't seem like reaching to me. For as good as Pippen was at the Bulls height without MJ before this year Pippen wasn't involved in the series clinching play. I you haven't guessed I am not over inflating Pippen's value without Michael Jeffrey Jordan on the court to elevate his worth.

 

When MJ didn't take the last shot he made the correct pass to the right person at the right time. Funny, none of those passes involved the great Scottie Pippen.

 

They made the Eastren Conference finals when MJ "retired". Pippen was by far the best player on the team then. MJ is the GOAT IMO but to dismiss Pippen is and the talent around MJ is laughable.

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