April 5, 201115 yr OK then lets include Orton and add some of the other stats (Rebounds and Assists). Once again using Rider, Clev. St, Standford, UNC, and UConn: Orton PPG - First 5 4.2 Season- 3.4 GOT WORSE!!! Other Stats: Rebounds: First Five-Season: Wall: 4-4.3 Cousins: 6.6-9.8 Patterson: 9-7.4 Bledsoe: 1.4-3.1 Miller: 4-2.5 Orton: 3-3.3 Assists: Wall: 6.2-6.5 Cousins: .4-1 Patterson: .2-.9 Bledsoe: 2.2-2.9 Miller: 1.6-1.5 Orton: .8-.4 OK, so where is this HUGE leap in anything at all??? These players were pretty much the same throughout the season. Fact is uk will get to the championship game next year based on talen alone. UofL will get there because of talent and coaching. I will take UofL's talent and CRP any day of the week. Like I said! Go ahead and book your tickets to Nawlins. I'll be there watching my Cards beat uk's tail!!! Now throw in total wins during that season, # of first round draft picks in that season, and then find me one or two other coaches that had better #'s in both.
April 5, 201115 yr Hollaback is either Charlie Sheen, Rick Pitino, 10 years old, or one of the best UK-haters in the history of this board. Needless to say, I like Holla. I did really put much stock into what has been said in this thread, but I've enjoyed reading HB's post. No one got better under Cal :lol:. CDR, Dozier, Rodney Carney don't count? Cal gets the one and done label, but other than last year how many has he had? 3 in DWashington JR, DRose, & Tyreke Evans? He's coached how many players that went on to win Rookie of the Year?
April 5, 201115 yr I did some searching on who would use a nickname like "Sick Sick Two Fiddy". Here was what I found... :lol: :lol:
April 5, 201115 yr Brother I wish you really had a clue before you commented on stuff... Let's just take a look at last year (since there was more "star" power on the team) and see if anyone got better...HA! I took 5 games at the beginning of the season in the 09-10 season (I even included games vs. good teams to help your cause). The games I looked at were Rider, Cleveland St., Stanford, UNC, and UConn. Here is what the starters averaged: Wall: 20 Cousins: 12 Patterson: 15 Bledsoe: 7.2 Miller: 7.4 The seaon average for the same 5 were as follows: Wall: 16 Cousins: 15 Patterson: 14 Bledsoe: 11 Miller: 6 Looking at these stats, there were only 2 players that made an increase in their PPG average by the end of the season and this was not even that significant. How in the WORLD can you say that players are getting better under Cal??? Be serious and know what you are talking about before you call people's comments dumb. Don't forget STATS NEVER LIE!!!
April 5, 201115 yr Had to double check and make sure it wasn't Mike Marra at first... You mean it's not?
April 5, 201115 yr Brother I wish you really had a clue before you commented on stuff... Let's just take a look at last year (since there was more "star" power on the team) and see if anyone got better...HA! I took 5 games at the beginning of the season in the 09-10 season (I even included games vs. good teams to help your cause). The games I looked at were Rider, Cleveland St., Stanford, UNC, and UConn. Here is what the starters averaged: Wall: 20 Cousins: 12 Patterson: 15 Bledsoe: 7.2 Miller: 7.4 The seaon average for the same 5 were as follows: Wall: 16 Cousins: 15 Patterson: 14 Bledsoe: 11 Miller: 6 Looking at these stats, there were only 2 players that made an increase in their PPG average by the end of the season and this was not even that significant. How in the WORLD can you say that players are getting better under Cal??? Be serious and know what you are talking about before you call people's comments dumb. Don't forget STATS NEVER LIE!!! Didn't UK play a bunch of scrubs the first 5 games? Wouldn't that change things some? "Beings serious and telling people to know what they are talking about", are you sure you want to go down this road?
April 6, 201115 yr Didn't UK play a bunch of scrubs the first 5 games? Wouldn't that change things some? "Beings serious and telling people to know what they are talking about", are you sure you want to go down this road? The rationale he uses, measuring a decreasing points per game for three of the players (the three who ended up being the lottery picks from the squad) is so far off. Using that logic, one could say that Michael Jordan did not get better as his career progressed. MJ averaged 37ppg. in his 3rd season & 28.7ppg. in his final championship season in Chicago.
April 6, 201115 yr The rationale he uses, measuring a decreasing points per game for three of the players (the three who ended up being the lottery picks from the squad) is so far off. Using that logic, one could say that Michael Jordan did not get better as his career progressed. MJ averaged 37ppg. in his 3rd season & 28.7ppg. in his final championship season in Chicago. Phil Jackson obviously doesn't make his team or players better.
April 6, 201115 yr The rationale he uses, measuring a decreasing points per game for three of the players (the three who ended up being the lottery picks from the squad) is so far off. Using that logic, one could say that Michael Jordan did not get better as his career progressed. MJ averaged 37ppg. in his 3rd season & 28.7ppg. in his final championship season in Chicago. Man, that Phil Jackson really ruined MJ's career :laugh:. I guess he can't coach either..........:thumb:
April 6, 201115 yr Phil Jackson obviously doesn't make his team or players better. You're not suggesting that Kobe's numbers have ever dropped off while Jackson has been in LA I hope....
April 6, 201115 yr You're not suggesting that Kobe's numbers have ever dropped off while Jackson has been in LA I hope.... Darn that Phil Jackson.
April 6, 201115 yr Darn that Phil Jackson. I have a feel HB is really on to something, we should probably warn the others and start our witch hunt asap. Heads will roll.
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