Libyan Unrest

[Zoot Soup]

I thought it was a pretty poor move for Obama to speak out today against Libya.

[Getslow]

I thought it was a pretty poor move for Obama to speak out today against Libya.

 

Why? What did he say?

[Zoot Soup]

Why? What did he say?

 

A lot more than what he ever said about Egypt. I understand the politics behind these moves, but it just seems so contradictory.

[Habib]

A lot more than what he ever said about Egypt. I understand the politics behind these moves, but it just seems so contradictory.

 

I have to push back a little bit. I think the result in Egypt turned out about as well as we could ask for in that we neither inspired the ire of the military or the protesters by taking a strong side and by working behind the scenes, so to speak, giving us an opportunity to work with both future elections and a future government with a more or less clean slate. With Libya, I think Qaddafi is so entrenched that US aloofness provides little value. There's really no scenario where Qaddafi works with US interests, the US might as well take the opportunity to make a display of it.

[SportsGuy41017]

A lot more than what he ever said about Egypt. I understand the politics behind these moves, but it just seems so contradictory.

Such as? These are two totally different animals here. Kadafi and his son saying things as "the protesters will be executed", "I will fight until the last drop of blood", and then they have used helicopter gunships to attack some protest. Reports of him saying he ordered his forces to blow up oil production facilities, Security forces preparing a major assault on Tripoli. Then saying he will die a martyr. Edited February 24, 2011 by SportsGuy41017

[Zoot Soup]

I guess I can see where you guys are coming from. Perhaps this is why I'm not the president. Or even an advisor.

[Zoot Soup]

Love that Qadhaffi is blaming Al Qaeda for inciting the youth of Libya. Saying they've been taking pills. :lol:

[Getslow]

Love that Qadhaffi is blaming Al Qaeda for inciting the youth of Libya. Saying they've been taking pills. :lol:

 

I listened to the bulk of the speech on the BBC today as I drove to work. It was seriously one of the craziest rants I've ever heard. But hey, what country isn't having problems with young people, alcohol, drugs and Al-Qaeda?

[jericho]

funny how obama condems Libya for having the military put down the armed prosters. If we all got together and went to DC to take over the White House with M-16s, would Obama call out the military too adn do the same thing or jsut say hey, I quit.

 

A libya w/o kadafi is not good, no government in place to take over and all it would be is muslim radicals and the US would be worse off.

[acemona]

funny how obama condems Libya for having the military put down the armed prosters. If we all got together and went to DC to take over the White House with M-16s, would Obama call out the military too adn do the same thing or jsut say hey, I quit.

 

A libya w/o kadafi is not good, no government in place to take over and all it would be is muslim radicals and the US would be worse off.

 

You got anything to back this statement up? How is it good with Libya now, and who guarantees that muslim radicals will take over.

[jericho]

You got anything to back this statement up? How is it good with Libya now, and who guarantees that muslim radicals will take over.

 

Governmental framework Libya has no formal constitution.[1] The country's political system is theoretically based on the political philosophy in Muammar al-Gaddafi's Green Book, which combines socialist and Islamic theories and rejects parliamentary democracy and political parties. Libya is broken up into three branches of government and was once overthrown[clarification needed]. Libya has a Prime Minister.[1]

 

 

In the late 1980s, Gaddafi began to pursue an anti-Fundamentalist Islamic policy domestically, viewing fundamentalism as a potential rallying point for opponents of the regime. Ministerial positions and military commanders are frequently shuffled or placed under temporary house arrest to diffuse potential threats to Gaddafi's authority.

 

Political parties were banned by the Prohibition of Party Politics Act Number 71 of 1972

[jericho]

You got anything to back this statement up? How is it good with Libya now, and who guarantees that muslim radicals will take over.

 

Muslim radicals are everywhere in the Middle east just waiting for this type of stuff so they can come in a sweet talk the people and then WHAM,

[jericho]

Egypt was in better shape government wise to go on, more democratic than Libya for sure. at least we know where we stand with Kadafi, i dont care for him, but sometimes you have to accept bad before you acceept terrible. It wouldbe great if teh Middle east would become democratic, but it wont happen.

 

Why doesnt Obama put his 2cents in on Iran and what they are doing. he is scared of them. he would rather sit and listen to MOTOWN than figure out the mess in the Middle east.

[Hearsay]

I don't think Obama has the stones for an "Operation El Dorado Canyon" of his own.

[SportsGuy41017]

You got anything to back this statement up? How is it good with Libya now, and who guarantees that muslim radicals will take over.

Hey, as long as they keep the ALL opposition silent we can deal with the human rights violations, and as long as the keep the oil flowing, THAT is how he is thinking!

 

Ever since he joined he is on a rage! The people in the Middle East and Northern Africa are NOT going to let radicals take over! They are wanting more rights and freedom, radicals will NOT let them have those two things, which is why they are uprising against the current radicals running their nations!