Has anyone seen this movie yet?

It looks to be a very powerful documentary...

Critics are raving about it.

I will definitely be checking this out soon.

Not seen the movie but what I have read about it and what has been the general attack on public schools seems to center around urban public schools but rural public schools that are doing fine get lumped in with the failing ones because of the use of the term "public schools."

Not seen the movie but what I have read about it and what has been the general attack on public schools seems to center around urban public schools but rural public schools that are doing fine get lumped in with the failing ones because of the use of the term "public schools."

 

I haven't watched it yet but I plan on it. I haven't heard the "lumping" issue. I did hear that it's obviously slanted towards the charter schools despite there still being debate as to how well they work overall.

 

I do think the film will expose a lot of the ugly parts of public school education within districts that 99% of us will never experience or fathom.

 

However, just because we will not experience it does not mean it will not have an impact on us.

"Waiting...." and "The Tillman Story" are the two docs I'm anxious to see.

 

Have not seen the entire crux of the film, but I have looked at some of the background info on Michelle Rhee, the chancellor of the DC Public School system. BTW, she is resigning. The mayor who had supported her, lost a re-election bid.

 

If anything this movie will bring to light many issues regarding public education.

 

At the heart of much of this to me, is that just because a child doesn't win in regards to the "parent lottery", they should not ultimately suffer.

1970's ways of teaching is not applicable to the 21st Century.

 

If anything KERA balanced the field monetarily, from the rural impoverished areas of Pike County to the affluent areas of say Ft. Thomas.

 

Not a big fan of Charter Schools, and the success of them are fuzzy.

If anything, everyone in a community has a vested interest in the local school. Instead of shaming them, they need to become active partners.

The socio-economic mess, the lack of health care to kids and so forth are inhibitors to success, but there still is no substitute for a strong and engaging adult in front of kids each and every day.

 

I will with hold final judgment on the film, until I see it, but it looks very intriguing.

You're right..........but the biggest problem with public schools is apathy by parents. When parents take a genuine interest in their child's education, a child does much better. I see it every day.

You're right..........but the biggest problem with public schools is apathy by parents. When parents take a genuine interest in their child's education, a child does much better. I see it every day.

 

No question on that point.

 

However, it's almost a given that many schools will have that challenge.

 

Now what?

If you watch Michelle Rhee's interview at The Aspen (youtube) you will find that it is very interesting.

I don't know but she is married to former Phoenix Sun Kevin Johnson. Since resigning, I think she just turned down the opportunity from Gov. Christie in NJ to be the Education Commissioner.

Going to see it this Saturday at the Esquire Theatre in Cincinnati. I'll let you know how it is.

Soooo … is the film soundtrack's title track a Flaming Lips tune?

I haven't watched it yet but I plan on it. I haven't heard the "lumping" issue. I did hear that it's obviously slanted towards the charter schools despite there still being debate as to how well they work overall.

 

I do think the film will expose a lot of the ugly parts of public school education within districts that 99% of us will never experience or fathom.

 

However, just because we will not experience it does not mean it will not have an impact on us.

My lumping point is that when things like this are talked about it comes up, "The problem with public schools is..." Never urban public schools. There are alot of great and good public schools out there.

 

So, if there are great, good and bad public schools, it would seem logical that the nature of "public schools" is not the problem. It must be something else whether geographay, parent apathy, etc, etc, etc.

No question on that point.

 

However, it's almost a given that many schools will have that challenge.

 

Now what?

 

Hold the parents accountable for their childs's education with a voucher system.

Have not seen the entire crux of the film, but I have looked at some of the background info on Michelle Rhee, the chancellor of the DC Public School system. BTW, she is resigning. The mayor who had supported her, lost a re-election bid.

 

If anything this movie will bring to light many issues regarding public education.

 

At the heart of much of this to me, is that just because a child doesn't win in regards to the "parent lottery", they should not ultimately suffer.

1970's ways of teaching is not applicable to the 21st Century.

 

If anything KERA balanced the field monetarily, from the rural impoverished areas of Pike County to the affluent areas of say Ft. Thomas.

 

Not a big fan of Charter Schools, and the success of them are fuzzy.

If anything, everyone in a community has a vested interest in the local school. Instead of shaming them, they need to become active partners.

The socio-economic mess, the lack of health care to kids and so forth are inhibitors to success, but there still is no substitute for a strong and engaging adult in front of kids each and every day.

 

I will with hold final judgment on the film, until I see it, but it looks very intriguing.

The bolded is what I mean by lumping all public schools together by a blanket statement that there are problems with public schools.

 

I wonder if the parents of Highlands or Beechwood are unhappy with the education that their public school is providing?

There are great public schools everywhere. But as a whole, particularly in Math and Science, our nation's scores are sliding and dropouts and such are increasing.

 

Understood, and I think one thing this shows is that it is very difficult to get rid of ineffective teachers, because of tenure.

Teacher unions and so forth add to this. I think teacher unions are more concerned about the teachers more so than the quality of education that kids get.

 

For example, the hypocrisy of Cincinnati Public Schools and their teachers. Over 40% of CPS teachers send their kids to private schools. The teachers union in CPS is tough to deal with.

 

As a whole, getting rid of ineffective teachers compared to other professions pales in comparison.

 

In addition, I hear that this film will be a calling for people to join the teaching profession or become advocates.

 

Simply blaming socio-economic status, parental involvement is an easy excuse, and it does make it more difficult to educate, but all kids deserve to be educated by the best teachers.

Do you think that teachers in under-performing schools have the same high expectations for their students as they do in more successful schools? Do you think teachers in under-performing schools assume ownership of issues as they do in other successful schools?

Dropouts are increasing from when? It would be interesting to see how the dropout % of today matches up with the dropout AND expulsion % of yesteryears. Today, students don't get expelled like they used to.