I have got to check this out. I do not play guitar myself (drummer), but great guitar work cannot be beat. Mountain Thunder mentioned Billy Gibbons in an earlier post. I have enjoyed ZZ Top since I was a youngster and just DVR'd a Top concert on Palladia in HD. Amazing! I don't think most people realize just how good he is.:ylsuper:

I have got to check this out. I do not play guitar myself (drummer), but great guitar work cannot be beat. Mountain Thunder mentioned Billy Gibbons in an earlier post. I have enjoyed ZZ Top since I was a youngster and just DVR'd a Top concert on Palladia in HD. Amazing! I don't think most people realize just how good he is.:ylsuper:

 

He is a very underrated guitarist. Billy Gibbons also uses a lot of side pick harmonics and has a very unique sound. That dude can play!!!

 

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Big difference in "Slash" and "The Edge". For one, Slash can actually shred a little bit. Two, he is actually cool. He is a cool guy and makes for a cool name. I mean I can see someone just being like, "Slash man whats up?" Can't see that many people though going around, "hey man, have you seen The Edge lately? Can't find him anywhere."

 

But honestly I just like to crack jokes. I understand a majority of acts use stage names, but a guy that calls himself The Edge who is basically an average player all the while playing about the softest form of rock you can play, it just makes me want to make fun of him. That's all it is.

 

Being a great guitar player is more than just shredding. If we were talking just about that, then you have to mention guys like Yngwie Malmsteen who can flat out shred, but much (not all) of his music is so fast it is almost unlistenable. Whey aren't we talking about Tiago Della Vega who owns the title of World's Fastest Guitarist? He played flight of the bumblebee at 320 bpm (beats per minute). Watch this link are realize that the video wasn't sped up. It is unbelievably fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTACJqFA1UY

 

Clapton was never known as a shredder but is a tremendous player. BB King has never been about speed and struggles with chords, but he plays with such emotion and has tremendous vibrato and feeling in those fat fingers of his. Chet Atkins was not a 'rock' guitarist but is arguably one of the best guitarists in history.

 

As a guitarist, it is not just the number of notes you can play in a minute, but the quality, tone and feeling of those notes.

Big difference in "Slash" and "The Edge". For one, Slash can actually shred a little bit. Two, he is actually cool. He is a cool guy and makes for a cool name. I mean I can see someone just being like, "Slash man whats up?" Can't see that many people though going around, "hey man, have you seen The Edge lately? Can't find him anywhere."

 

But honestly I just like to crack jokes. I understand a majority of acts use stage names, but a guy that calls himself The Edge who is basically an average player all the while playing about the softest form of rock you can play, it just makes me want to make fun of him. That's all it is.

 

Wow, when U2 first came out they were anything but considered soft.

Being a great guitar player is more than just shredding. If we were talking just about that, then you have to mention guys like Yngwie Malmsteen who can flat out shred, but much (not all) of his music is so fast it is almost unlistenable. Whey aren't we talking about Tiago Della Vega who owns the title of World's Fastest Guitarist? He played flight of the bumblebee at 320 bpm (beats per minute). Watch this link are realize that the video wasn't sped up. It is unbelievably fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTACJqFA1UY

 

Clapton was never known as a shredder but is a tremendous player. BB King has never been about speed and struggles with chords, but he plays with such emotion and has tremendous vibrato and feeling in those fat fingers of his. Chet Atkins was not a 'rock' guitarist but is arguably one of the best guitarists in history.

 

As a guitarist, it is not just the number of notes you can play in a minute, but the quality, tone and feeling of those notes.

 

 

When I say shred, I don't mean it to just mean playing fast. Its just a figure of speech I use for players who can just rip off a big crazy solo, or just start ripping a sweet riff. For the way I use the word, I definitely categorize Clapton as a shredder, even guys like John Mayer I consider shredders. But thats just in my context of the word. Basically If I say someone shreds, I am meaning they can really play the guitar.

Has anyone watched this documentary? Jimmy Page, Jack White, and the Edge get together and talk about all things guitar. And they do a little playing too.

 

 

Just finished watching the documentary and LOVED it. Excellent call!!! Although, I must admit I now feel totally unworthy as a guitar player.

:thumb: I thought a lot of the same things, especially that part with the Edge. He got up and moved to get a better look and I was thinking, "I would be doing the exact same thing." I disagree about Jack White, though. I think he is the most innovative modern guitar player out there. He has given a new interpretation to the blues that I think is unmatched, despite its rough style.

 

Overall the movie was very, very enjoyable, I just wish there had been more.

 

I agree with you on Jack White...I think his creativeness is his biggest strength. I don't see him as being the technical genius of a guy like Jimmy Page, but he is innovative.

I've seen the Jimmy Kimmel clips a bunch of times and still laugh every time. If you like that then go check out the Live Performance of Berserkers (BLS) I think from Boozed, Bruised, and Broken Boned in which many times through the song he takes shots at Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst.

 

 

But yeah, most people who don't know what their talking about try to rip on Zakk and not give him the accolade he deserves being he plays a harder brand of music. But his chicken picking techniques, pinch harmonics, and all the other techniques he has mastered is incredible. Goes wild on so many different scales it is crazy, the things he throws into his solo's are always sick. And I agree with you 100% most of his best stuff is with Black Label Society, which obviously gives him more freedom being it is his own band. If you haven't heard Pride and Glory, check them out too. Was Zakk's first solo band apart from Ozzy and had a very southern rock driven vibe. Good stuff in that as well. Luckily I have had the privledge of seeing Zakk live a couple of times, one time was only about 8 feet away from him. Just the presence he brings on stage when he comes out with his big hulking frame and signature Les Paul is an experience to behold. Then before even saying a word, he starts ripping on that Les Paul and the electricity that pours out of those Marshall's almost knocks ya down.

 

Not considering this the greatest guitarists of all time because clearly that will always be debatable, but If I had to name a handful of my favorite guitarists it would be Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Zakk Wylde, Eddie Van Halen, Tony Iommi, David Gilmour, Dimebag Darrel Abbot, and perhaps somebody like Slash, or the take your pick of the Skynyrd rippers.

 

I loved the Pride & Glory CD. I think he's an awesome guitarist. I'm not a huge fan of Black Label Society, but I'm a big fan of his guitar playing.

 

Some of my favorites would be...

 

Page, Hendrix, David Gilmour, Alex Lifeson, Mike McCready, Tom Morello, Adam Jones, Kim Thayil

 

It's hard to think of all the guitar players I enjoy at one time.

I agree with you on Jack White...I think his creativeness is his biggest strength. I don't see him as being the technical genius of a guy like Jimmy Page, but he is innovative.

 

I have never considered Page as a technical genius. I think that he and White are similar in that creativeness is their real strong suit. Page has come up with some of the best riffs in the history of rock n roll. His play is often sloppy so technically he is not the best IMHO, but his creativity has been so influencial on rock music, still to this day, and he is one of the all time greats. He was an innovator looking for new sounds and that is where he and Edge are similar. Edge was looking for new sounds and utilized the delay effect in the rhythm parts of songs in a very innovative way to create his 'sound'. Technically, he is not a great 'player' and nowhere near Pages level, but his use of effects (like his style or not) has been his calling card.

 

I have yet to see the entire fillm, just parts. But what I have seen has given me a new appreciation for Jack White. He is a good guitar player who is driven by his creativity and his unabashed appreciation for musicians who came long before him and wants to learn from them. His slide playing was MUCH better than I would have thought. Very raw and full of emotion which is a HUGE part of playing slide guitar. I was impressed with what little I have seen from him and can't wait to watch the entire film!!!

I still say that Jack White -- a guy who has always had great taste in cover tunes -- is denying himself and the rest of us a whole lot of fun by not covering Heart's "Straight On." That great lick and the high-pitched way Ann Wilson sings the opening of each verse suits his style well.

I loved the Pride & Glory CD. I think he's an awesome guitarist. I'm not a huge fan of Black Label Society, but I'm a big fan of his guitar playing.

 

Some of my favorites would be...

 

Page, Hendrix, David Gilmour, Alex Lifeson, Mike McCready, Tom Morello, Adam Jones, Kim Thayil

 

It's hard to think of all the guitar players I enjoy at one time.

 

Lifeson is very underrated. Plays many solos off time compared to most guitar players. Other guitarists I have played music with over the years either love him or hate him because of how he plays.

 

My all time favorites would be: Segovia, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, SRV, Ace Frehley (I know he is nowhere near being an elite guitarist, but he inspired me as a guitar player when I was a young kid and can't help it), Billy Gibbons, Steve Morse, Chet Atkins, Van Halen (may be a jerk but he changed rock music, Vai, etc. You are right, I could probably list guitar players I like all day long and never run out of names!!!

I still say that Jack White -- a guy who has always had great taste in cover tunes -- is denying himself and the rest of us a whole lot of fun by not covering Heart's "Straight On." That great lick and the high-pitched way Ann Wilson sings the opening of each verse suits his style well.

 

THAT would be very interestin indeed!!!

I have never considered Page as a technical genius. I think that he and White are similar in that creativeness is their real strong suit. Page has come up with some of the best riffs in the history of rock n roll. His play is often sloppy so technically he is not the best IMHO, but his creativity has been so influencial on rock music, still to this day, and he is one of the all time greats. He was an innovator looking for new sounds and that is where he and Edge are similar. Edge was looking for new sounds and utilized the delay effect in the rhythm parts of songs in a very innovative way to create his 'sound'. Technically, he is not a great 'player' and nowhere near Pages level, but his use of effects (like his style or not) has been his calling card.

 

I have yet to see the entire fillm, just parts. But what I have seen has given me a new appreciation for Jack White. He is a good guitar player who is driven by his creativity and his unabashed appreciation for musicians who came long before him and wants to learn from them. His slide playing was MUCH better than I would have thought. Very raw and full of emotion which is a HUGE part of playing slide guitar. I was impressed with what little I have seen from him and can't wait to watch the entire film!!!

 

The rawness is what always appealed to me about Jack White.

 

Perhaps Page isn't a genius, I'm not a guitar expert, but I've always thought he was pretty proficient from a technical standpoint. I thought his lead playing was great. But, I hold Led Zeppelin in the highest esteem and Jimmy Page has always been my favorite guitarist. He is a genius, but perhaps not a technical genius.:thumb:

Lifeson is very underrated. Plays many solos off time compared to most guitar players. Other guitarists I have played music with over the years either love him or hate him because of how he plays.

 

My all time favorites would be: Segovia, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, SRV, Ace Frehley (I know he is nowhere near being an elite guitarist, but he inspired me as a guitar player when I was a young kid and can't help it), Billy Gibbons, Steve Morse, Chet Atkins, Van Halen (may be a jerk but he changed rock music, Vai, etc. You are right, I could probably list guitar players I like all day long and never run out of names!!!

 

Some good ones...you don't need to apologize for Ace Frehley. I don't generally pick my guitar favorites based solely on their technical abilities...basically just whether I like what they do. Some guys can make the fretboard catch fire, but they can't make good music. I like a guitar player who can be creative and display some skills while fitting into the band. It's like a basketball coach or a great player...part of what makes them good sometimes is knowing when to pull back and blend in and when to step forward. I view guitar players like that to some degree. I think Alex Lifeson might be a good example. I discovered Rush a little later, but I think they're three of the most gifted musicians at their instruments you'll see in one band. And, they display their abilities without sacrificing the songs, IMO.

The rawness is what always appealed to me about Jack White.

 

Perhaps Page isn't a genius, I'm not a guitar expert, but I've always thought he was pretty proficient from a technical standpoint. I thought his lead playing was great. But, I hold Led Zeppelin in the highest esteem and Jimmy Page has always been my favorite guitarist. He is a genius, but perhaps not a technical genius.:thumb:

 

:thumb: On the contrary, while I think Page's play is often sloppy (technically speaking only) that is not necessarily a bad thing. Part of it was his style and often blues based music (rock, blues, or otherwise) is a bit sloppy. Page is/was a genius in his riff creations. He was a good lead player, but it was his ability to create some of the best riffs in the history of the genre that have impressed me the most. He is one of the all time greats IMHO and should be on any rock guitarist top 10 list. I still listen to Zeppelin and never tire of the riffs he came up with. He was an innovator and the older I get and more I listen, the more I just say 'wow' to so much of what he came up with. Here it is 4 decades later and Zeppelin's music still is listened to and talked about. It don't get much better than that!