PHOENIX – Favoring the constitutional right to bear arms over others' concerns about gun safety, Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state allowing people to carry a concealed weapon without requiring a permit.

 

The measure takes effect 90 days after the current legislative session ends, which likely puts the effective date in July or August.

 

"I believe this legislation not only protects the Second Amendment rights of Arizona citizens, but restores those rights as well," Brewer, a Republican, said in a statement.

 

Alaska and Vermont now do not require permits to carry concealed weapons.

 

By eliminating the permit requirement, the Arizona legislation will allow people 21 or older to forego background checks and classes that are now required.

 

Thoughts?

 

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My first question is how a background check or requirement for a permit to own a gun impedes any Constitutional rights.

My first question is how a background check or requirement for a permit to own a gun impedes any Constitutional rights.

I somehow knew you'd be the first post. :lol:

 

I understand your feelings on that, I also understand theirs. I'm sort of in the middle of the permit and I really don't have a problem with background checks. There are, however, many that disagree with both of us on that and I can respect their view.

I somehow knew you'd be the first post. :lol:

 

I understand your feelings on that, I also understand theirs. I'm sort of in the middle of the permit and I really don't have a problem with background checks. There are, however, many that disagree with both of us on that and I can respect their view.

 

 

It's not that I don't want to respect their view. But there's no logic to it, IMO. It seems to me that if one is legitimately supporting constitutional rights, one would WANT the right to have integrity. Not taking safeguards that ensure that guns aren't legally allowed for people with criminal pasts or such makes sure that the "other side" has ammunition for their position.

 

I believe that ALL of our rights come with responsibility. There is no thing as free speech, for instance, with no strings attached. The same principle applies to all of our rights.

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I'm in favor of Concealed Carry laws. However, I don't think its unconstitutional or a burden to have carriers go through a background check or through some minimum training.

 

I was in Colorado yesterday and the courts overrode a law that forbade college students from carrying guns on campus.

I have no problem with a background check or a permit to carry (the class is both educational and fun). I DO have a problem with the government knowing WHAT firearms I own.

I have no problem with a background check or a permit to carry (the class is both educational and fun). I DO have a problem with the government knowing WHAT firearms I own.

 

Why does it matter if you have to register your guns?

 

If it is stolen or used for an illegitimate purpose, it increases the chance of identifying the perpetrator while decreasing the time, cost & effort required to track it down.

Why does it matter if you have to register your guns?

 

If it is stolen or used for an illegitimate purpose, it increases the chance of identifying the perpetrator while decreasing the time, cost & effort required to track it down.

 

I agree with you on that point. My feeling on this,however,is that the it would be much easier for the government to sieze what they know that I have than what they do not.

I agree with you on that point. My feeling on this,however,is that the it would be much easier for the government to sieze what they know that I have than what they do not.

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I agree with you on that point. My feeling on this,however,is that the it would be much easier for the government to sieze what they know that I have than what they do not.

 

Why do you fear the govt seizing your guns?

Why do you fear the govt seizing your guns?

 

 

Haven't you heard? We've regressed to the times of the English Monarch tyrannically ruling our colony.

Why do you fear the govt seizing your guns?

It's something one should NEVER think couldn't happen. There are a lot of anti-gun proponents out there that want just that, some in government.

Haven't you heard? We've regressed to the times of the English Monarch tyrannically ruling our colony.

It's something one should NEVER think couldn't happen. There are a lot of anti-gun proponents out there that want just that, some in government.

 

Let me get this straight.

 

You think that the anti-gun members of the government are going to come to your house in KY and seize your guns?

 

And the only justification for this absurd hypothetical is that you have to register your guns?

 

Please correct me if I misinterpreted your statement.