April 18, 201016 yr Just classic. A. I've been drunk B. I've had sex. C. I've done both A and B at the same time D. When C occurred, I always was sure. :thumb:
April 20, 201016 yr Cop out or not, bottom line he hasn't committed a crime and he's not worthy of playing in the NFL. Are we serious? I know this is a Bengal dominated board, but please try to listen to the context of that post. Simply retarded thinking. I agree that it's no excuse for lewd behavior, but it's rather common, like it or not. And frankly, I wish all of those who participate in that type of junk would get called to the carpet and scrutinized, but that's just not living in reality. I never said he shouldn't play in the NFL because his talent is undeniable, but if he is the leader of your team what does that say about your organization? That you don't value things like morals, ethics, self control? The QB has to be the one to personify the qualities you waant your team to known for and i see no redeamable qualities in Ben...and i guess it's retarded to expect our leaders and role models to be good people? Color me retarded then I am a Bengals fan but I would say the same about Palmer if it were him in this situation. IMO QB is the position that you cannot afford to have character issues PERIOD...
April 20, 201016 yr I never said he shouldn't play in the NFL because his talent is undeniable, but if he is the leader of your team what does that say about your organization? That you don't value things like morals, ethics, self control? The QB has to be the one to personify the qualities you waant your team to known for and i see no redeamable qualities in Ben...and i guess it's retarded to expect our leaders and role models to be good people? Color me retarded then I am a Bengals fan but I would say the same about Palmer if it were him in this situation. IMO QB is the position that you cannot afford to have character issues PERIOD... So it's just the QB position?
April 20, 201016 yr So it's just the QB position? I wouldn't say JUST, but they have the most responsibility of any postision on the team therefore making their actions magnified and more meaningful.
April 20, 201016 yr While I agree with most of your post, the bolded is hogwash. If that's the case, there would be alot of teams without players, not to mention, alot of parishes without priests, alot of Washington without politicians, etc. You say that like it would be a bad thing!!!! :lol::jump::lol:
April 20, 201016 yr I never said he shouldn't play in the NFL because his talent is undeniable, but if he is the leader of your team what does that say about your organization? That you don't value things like morals, ethics, self control? The QB has to be the one to personify the qualities you waant your team to known for and i see no redeamable qualities in Ben...and i guess it's retarded to expect our leaders and role models to be good people? Color me retarded then I am a Bengals fan but I would say the same about Palmer if it were him in this situation. IMO QB is the position that you cannot afford to have character issues PERIOD... Tomlin addressed it in a team meeting. Coach Mike Tomlin spoke to his players Monday morning before their first spring practice that included quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, and a few said it became plain to them that the Steelers would have "zero tolerance" toward any more off-field shenanigans. "We were told early this morning, either you get in line or you get kicked out of line, either you'll be traded or you're not going to be here," tackle Willie Colon said as he walked off the practice field at the Steelers' training facility. "If your conduct is going to play a part of you not being a good football player or any part of this NFL, they're going to get rid of you. So my job is to be a football player and conduct myself respectfully off the field." Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10109/1051717-100.stm#ixzz0lezPWIKV I think we all put way too much stock into the character of our sports figures. I am a Steeler fan and don't place any of them on a pedestal for my sons to aspire to be like. I believe Charles Barkley had it right. But regardless of one's take on the Ben issue, fact of the matter is that one more incident and he's gonzo.
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