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Players at the next level.

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Talk to us about how many there were 15-20 years ago and who were they exactly? Please.

 

There are teams right now that have loads of talent that cant even make it out of regionals... Lousiville-Eastern!

 

Define great. Back in the day, Eastern with Spencer and Crook, Ballard with Houston and Bacon, Seneca (dear lord) Kimbro, Keith Williams, Robert Peyton, "Duke" Miller and even Doss with Derek Anderson. It was unreal watching some of those games.

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They aren't actually in JUCO division. They are in a different division for community colleges. Can't remember the name of the league. I think they finished 3rd this year and won it a few years ago.

 

 

 

You are correct they play in the USCAA Division 2.

Ouch! How could I forget?!? Phi Slamma Jamma, Fairdale Bulldogs. Roberson, Carter, Vaden, Cox, and others. Now that team was "great" to watch.

I am not at liberty to say at this point. I know there are 3 or 4 right now that have significant looks. This is not to say that all will go D1, but there is a solid chance. I am also not saying they are "big time" D1 looks, but D1 is still the top level of basketball. We shall see what happens this summer... and maybe some of their senior seasons.

 

Hate to disagree with you but there are not 4 kids in Northern Kentucky getting D1 looks, mid major, low major or high major and if there are 4 kids that get to play and get their education paid for at the D2 level that will be a lot.

 

The top 4 juniors in N Ky are Stauffer, Smith, Thelen and Geisler in any order you want to place them. All of them have decent resumes but not any more impressive than Gabbard, Kowolonek, Flannery or Jacob Rieger from the 2010 class.

 

Gabbard, Kowolonek and Flannery played on a high profile AAU team with multiple D1 signees that did not lose a pool play game in any tournament that they played in last year. It would be hard to imagine that anyone in N Ky played in front of more college coaches than this group. Rieger also played for another Shining Star team that played a great schedule and had arguably a better high school career than anyone on the list.

 

So who in 2011 has had a better high school career or more exposure than these players?

 

Only Mikey Gabbard on this list still has a shot at playing D1 and I don't know how good a shot that is at this time. Kowolonek and Rieger are looking at D3 and NAIA. Flannery apparently has an offer from Walsh which is moving up from NAIA to D2.

Hate to disagree with you but there are not 4 kids in Northern Kentucky getting D1 looks, mid major, low major or high major and if there are 4 kids that get to play and get their education paid for at the D2 level that will be a lot.

 

The top 4 juniors in N Ky are Stauffer, Smith, Thelen and Geisler in any order you want to place them. All of them have decent resumes but not any more impressive than Gabbard, Kowolonek, Flannery or Jacob Rieger from the 2010 class.

 

Gabbard, Kowolonek and Flannery played on a high profile AAU team with multiple D1 signees that did not lose a pool play game in any tournament that they played in last year. It would be hard to imagine that anyone in N Ky played in front of more college coaches than this group. Rieger also played for another Shining Star team that played a great schedule and had arguably a better high school career than anyone on the list.

 

So who in 2011 has had a better high school career or more exposure than these players?

 

Only Mikey Gabbard on this list still has a shot at playing D1 and I don't know how good a shot that is at this time. Kowolonek and Rieger are looking at D3 and NAIA. Flannery apparently has an offer from Walsh which is moving up from NAIA to D2.

 

I believe Flannery is getting a look at James Madison as a preferred walk-on and had an offer as a preferred walk-on at EKU.

Hate to disagree with you but there are not 4 kids in Northern Kentucky getting D1 looks, mid major, low major or high major and if there are 4 kids that get to play and get their education paid for at the D2 level that will be a lot.

 

The top 4 juniors in N Ky are Stauffer, Smith, Thelen and Geisler in any order you want to place them. All of them have decent resumes but not any more impressive than Gabbard, Kowolonek, Flannery or Jacob Rieger from the 2010 class.

 

Gabbard, Kowolonek and Flannery played on a high profile AAU team with multiple D1 signees that did not lose a pool play game in any tournament that they played in last year. It would be hard to imagine that anyone in N Ky played in front of more college coaches than this group. Rieger also played for another Shining Star team that played a great schedule and had arguably a better high school career than anyone on the list.

 

So who in 2011 has had a better high school career or more exposure than these players?

 

Only Mikey Gabbard on this list still has a shot at playing D1 and I don't know how good a shot that is at this time. Kowolonek and Rieger are looking at D3 and NAIA. Flannery apparently has an offer from Walsh which is moving up from NAIA to D2.

 

I would think Hodges would get a look over all the top juniors you listed.

 

He is 6'9" and still growing and moves very well for a kid his size. Hodges is a guard in a tall body.

I would think Hodges would get a look over all the top juniors you listed.

 

He is 6'9" and still growing and moves very well for a kid his size. Hodges is a guard in a tall body.

 

 

Intiguing prospect but all of the players listed above have produced significantly better numbers. You really can't compare his resume to the players listed.

 

Physical players on the interior give him problems.

 

Only shot 15 threes for Conner last season and shot a decent percentage. More turnovers than assists so it's tough to say he has guard skills.

 

College coaches value production as much as they value potential and since it has been tossed out there about D1 potential where is the D1 production?

 

Hodges will play at the next level but in my opinion it won't be at the D1 level.

Look for at least 3 kids from N. KY alone to get D1 offers/looks this summer/year. With a few others with the potential/athletic ability/height/speed/skill to do make it happen.

 

Granted, maybe not "major" D1 programs, but I dont like the "mid-major" stereotype anyway. Try telling Xavier that they are a "mid-major". They are relevant every year.

 

I am not at liberty to say at this point. I know there are 3 or 4 right now that have significant looks. This is not to say that all will go D1, but there is a solid chance. I am also not saying they are "big time" D1 looks, but D1 is still the top level of basketball. We shall see what happens this summer... and maybe some of their senior seasons.

 

No way there's 4 kids in the c/o 2011 in NKY that will play any level of D1.

 

Stauffer will likely play D3 or D2. I personally don't think he's better than Jeremiah Johnson and JJ will likely end up at an NAIA or D2 school. JJ has more athleticism, better ball handler, and is a very good rebounding guard at 6'4-6'5.

 

Thelen is a solid big man and it's his dream to play at Notre Dame, but he simply doesn't have the athleticism, foot speed, or play good enough defense to play at the D1 level. Compare him to Brennan Votel and it's not even close. Thelen will end up at a D3, prossibly D2 school as well.

 

Geisler is the best big man in NKY, but if he plays D1 anywhere it'll be on the gridiron...not hardwood.

 

Smith is a nice prospect at PG and would bring a lot to the table for a lot of teams, but he simply isn't a D1 caliber player. Lacks the size and strength to play at that level. He'll most likely play at the D2 or D3 level as well (D3 would be a better option IMO).

 

Even Kevon Rice at Holmes won't come close to playing D1 ball. I know he has received some camp invites from schools such as Tennessee, West Virginia, and MAC schools, but camp invites don't make you a D1 prospect. Rice is another kid that will likely fall in the NAIA, D2, D3 level.

 

There is a lot of D2-D3 talent in NKY next year, but no way any of those guys play D1. I'd be very surprised if any received offers.

 

I would think Hodges would get a look over all the top juniors you listed.

 

He is 6'9" and still growing and moves very well for a kid his size. Hodges is a guard in a tall body.

 

Hodges falls in the same category as the above listed players. Solid player but simply lacks the overall strength, quickness, and athleticism to play at the D1 level. He'll play D2 or D3 and go on to have a nice college career.

 

Heck, he might not even be the best player on his team next year. Flesch and Robinson are both pretty solid players as well.

No way there's 4 kids in the c/o 2011 in NKY that will play any level of D1.

 

Stauffer will likely play D3 or D2. I personally don't think he's better than Jeremiah Johnson and JJ will likely end up at an NAIA or D2 school. JJ has more athleticism, better ball handler, and is a very good rebounding guard at 6'4-6'5.

 

Thelen is a solid big man and it's his dream to play at Notre Dame, but he simply doesn't have the athleticism, foot speed, or play good enough defense to play at the D1 level. Compare him to Brennan Votel and it's not even close. Thelen will end up at a D3, prossibly D2 school as well.

 

Geisler is the best big man in NKY, but if he plays D1 anywhere it'll be on the gridiron...not hardwood.

 

Smith is a nice prospect at PG and would bring a lot to the table for a lot of teams, but he simply isn't a D1 caliber player. Lacks the size and strength to play at that level. He'll most likely play at the D2 or D3 level as well (D3 would be a better option IMO).

 

Even Kevon Rice at Holmes won't come close to playing D1 ball. I know he has received some camp invites from schools such as Tennessee, West Virginia, and MAC schools, but camp invites don't make you a D1 prospect. Rice is another kid that will likely fall in the NAIA, D2, D3 level.

 

There is a lot of D2-D3 talent in NKY next year, but no way any of those guys play D1. I'd be very surprised if any received offers.

 

 

 

Hodges falls in the same category as the above listed players. Solid player but simply lacks the overall strength, quickness, and athleticism to play at the D1 level. He'll play D2 or D3 and go on to have a nice college career.

 

Heck, he might not even be the best player on his team next year. Flesch and Robinson are both pretty solid players as well.

 

Agreed....pretty good assessment on each of the players. Would be surprised if any of these players received any D1 offers. All could possibly play at the D2 level but would have to be the right situation. Daniel O'Conner of Scott ended up at nice D2 in Tusculum and I think each of these players is a better prospect than O'Conner.

 

Look at how the roster at NKU is changing and that will give you all you need to know about the changing landscape of recruiting at the top levels in D2.

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Hate to disagree with you but there are not 4 kids in Northern Kentucky getting D1 looks, mid major, low major or high major and if there are 4 kids that get to play and get their education paid for at the D2 level that will be a lot.

 

The top 4 juniors in N Ky are Stauffer, Smith, Thelen and Geisler in any order you want to place them. All of them have decent resumes but not any more impressive than Gabbard, Kowolonek, Flannery or Jacob Rieger from the 2010 class.

 

Gabbard, Kowolonek and Flannery played on a high profile AAU team with multiple D1 signees that did not lose a pool play game in any tournament that they played in last year. It would be hard to imagine that anyone in N Ky played in front of more college coaches than this group. Rieger also played for another Shining Star team that played a great schedule and had arguably a better high school career than anyone on the list.

 

So who in 2011 has had a better high school career or more exposure than these players?

 

Only Mikey Gabbard on this list still has a shot at playing D1 and I don't know how good a shot that is at this time. Kowolonek and Rieger are looking at D3 and NAIA. Flannery apparently has an offer from Walsh which is moving up from NAIA to D2.

 

Its okay to disagree. But, this info isn't just pulled from thin air. There is backing. However, Im not saying that either will actually go D1.

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Intiguing prospect but all of the players listed above have produced significantly better numbers. You really can't compare his resume to the players listed.

 

Physical players on the interior give him problems.

 

Only shot 15 threes for Conner last season and shot a decent percentage. More turnovers than assists so it's tough to say he has guard skills.

 

College coaches value production as much as they value potential and since it has been tossed out there about D1 potential where is the D1 production?

 

Hodges will play at the next level but in my opinion it won't be at the D1 level.

 

Not that either of them do, but believe that Smith (a 5'11" or 6'0") passer has more "D1 potential" than a 6'9" shot blocker that can play on the wing. No way. Guards are a dime a dozen. Many coaches want tall, athletic, kids that can provide defense on the interior and on the perimeter. Notice... WV put the 6'9" Ebanks on John Wall yesterday for a bit.

 

Not comparing Hodges to Ebanks, but same principle.

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I think that Stauffer is the best big man in NKY. His numbers were good, but somewhat skewed IMO. Early injury, and 2 Seniors that really like the basketball.

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Agreed....pretty good assessment on each of the players. Would be surprised if any of these players received any D1 offers. All could possibly play at the D2 level but would have to be the right situation. Daniel O'Conner of Scott ended up at nice D2 in Tusculum and I think each of these players is a better prospect than O'Conner.

 

Look at how the roster at NKU is changing and that will give you all you need to know about the changing landscape of recruiting at the top levels in D2.

 

I agree that each of these mentioned players has more potential than O'Conner. Pretty significantly in my opinion. O'Conner is a nice player, but i like what these boys bring to the table.

Not that either of them do, but believe that Smith (a 5'11" or 6'0") passer has more "D1 potential" than a 6'9" shot blocker that can play on the wing. No way. Guards are a dime a dozen. Many coaches want tall, athletic, kids that can provide defense on the interior and on the perimeter. Notice... WV put the 6'9" Ebanks on John Wall yesterday for a bit.

 

Not comparing Hodges to Ebanks, but same principle.

 

Gotta give props to the St Thomas More Prep alum Devin Ebanks!

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