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Obama's Speech and Facts

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Honestly, it didn't deserve even that IMO.

 

So, you long for the days of the Bush bashing and now that it's going the other way, it's not fun anymore. Noted.

 

I don't long for the days of bashing President Bush. But when President Bush was being bashed in this thread there were more than enough Bush supporters here to defend him. That's not hardly the case today with Obama. It's 1 vs. 100 and the 1 is Obama defenders.

 

This forum has always leaned to the right a little, but it's further to the right than it's ever been right now.

 

Those aren't the only reasons I've grown tired of this forum. Like I said before, politics just aren't fun for me to discuss anymore.

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Is that disillusionment with Obama I'm sensing? COuld it be that it's not that "fun" in here any more because you see the travesty that is the Obama presidency so far pointed out? Or was it simply more fun when you could pile on while Bush was in office?

 

The bottom line is I have a real belief that Obama and those like him wish more people would start caring less and less about politics. If less people cared then that train wreck of a health care bill would be law right now.

 

I've never been an Obama supporter. I didn't vote for him and I probably won't next election either.

 

I should say, I support him as our President and I hope he helps this country out. But I'm not a person who will go out campaigning for him.

We didn't figure you would see anything negative . . . you are one of the kool-aid drinkers of the socialistic policies he spews.

 

Frankly, it's comments like your last line that make me know that there is no such thing as open-discussion with people who make such statements. The hyperbole and rhetoric spew forth, but no discussion of ideas.

 

For instance, your mind was made up well before Obama was elected. Expecting any discussion of ideas and merits is completely impossible. There is absolutely no doubt in your mind you're right and anyone who doesn't agree with you is a person of little intellect.

Frankly, it's comments like your last line that make me know that there is no such thing as open-discussion with people who make such statements. The hyperbole and rhetoric spew forth, but no discussion of ideas.

 

For instance, your mind was made up well before Obama was elected. Expecting any discussion of ideas and merits is completely impossible. There is absolutely no doubt in your mind you're right and anyone who doesn't agree with you is a person of little intellect.

 

RM, I agree with almost every thing you say in this forum. I should never post, and just give you a :thumb: after all of your posts :lol:.

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I don't long for the days of bashing President Bush. But when President Bush was being bashed in this thread there were more than enough Bush supporters here to defend him. That's not hardly the case today with Obama. It's 1 vs. 100 and the 1 is Obama defenders.

 

This forum has always leaned to the right a little, but it's further to the right than it's ever been right now.

 

Those aren't the only reasons I've grown tired of this forum. Like I said before, politics just aren't fun for me to discuss anymore.

Ever stop to think that might be because not many can find anything to defend with Obama? He certainly hasn't delivered on transparency or much of anything he promised with so called "change".

 

It it's leaning more to the right now, again that could be the fault of the current administration. Just look at what's happened Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts. They're looking to lose more in November.

 

You had no problem bashing Bush and you loved bashing Palin and enjoyed it even more when others did. I have no problem with that since this is a political forum. I do have a problem with the fact that now you won't call Obama on anything yet you expected me to on Bush and you want to cry foul when others do the same to Obama that was done to Bush for 8 years. Give me a break. :rolleyes:

Frankly, it's comments like your last line that make me know that there is no such thing as open-discussion with people who make such statements. The hyperbole and rhetoric spew forth, but no discussion of ideas.

 

For instance, your mind was made up well before Obama was elected. Expecting any discussion of ideas and merits is completely impossible. There is absolutely no doubt in your mind you're right and anyone who doesn't agree with you is a person of little intellect.

 

Thank you for putting words in my mouth....it sounds to me if the opposite is true . . . you think you are right and others have little intellect. You are right about one thing I was pretty much sure I was going to hear the same ideas that Obama has espoused to since his campaign days . . . I did hope that the election in Massachusetts might have tempered that a bit but it seems it just emboldened him. If he had backed off a little and shown a smidgen of humility and said that he planned to go back to the drawing board and listen to the majority of the American people on Healthcare I would have been pleasantly surprised. I am not as closed mind as you may think but he hasn't moved away from his socialistic ideas at all ----in fact, he may have gone further left. And, his push for continuing the "culture of death" is stronger than ever. I know you think that issue has no place in politics but I do.... so it looks like we will continue to disagree. I do not think you or others have no intellect I just think we see things in a very different way. Sorry if that offends you.:thumb:

Thank you for putting words in my mouth....it sounds to me if the opposite is true . . . you think you are right and others have little intellect. You are right about one thing I was pretty much sure I was going to hear the same ideas that Obama has espoused to since his campaign days . . . I did hope that the election in Massachusetts might have tempered that a bit but it seems it just emboldened him. If he had backed off a little and shown a smidgen of humility and said that he planned to go back to the drawing board and listen to the majority of the American people on Healthcare I would have been pleasantly surprised. I am not as closed mind as you may think but he hasn't moved away from his socialistic ideas at all ----in fact, he may have gone further left. And, his push for continuing the "culture of death" is stronger than ever. I know you think that issue has no place in politics but I do.... so it looks like we will continue to disagree. I do not think you or others have no intellect I just think we see things in a very different way. Sorry if that offends you.:thumb:

 

:lol: I don't get offended by what you say. :lol:

Ever stop to think that might be because not many can find anything to defend with Obama? He certainly hasn't delivered on transparency or much of anything he promised with so called "change".

 

It it's leaning more to the right now, again that could be the fault of the current administration. Just look at what's happened Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts. They're looking to lose more in November.

 

You had no problem bashing Bush and you loved bashing Palin and enjoyed it even more when others did. I have no problem with that since this is a political forum. I do have a problem with the fact that now you won't call Obama on anything yet you expected me to on Bush and you want to cry foul when others do the same to Obama that was done to Bush for 8 years. Give me a break. :rolleyes:

A lot of us love well-reasoned, informative discussion, but frankly, the constant drone of "Kool-Aid" type remarks and the incredible hyperbole and exaggerations in this forum have become tiresome. It's a big reason I don't venture into this forum very often anymore.
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A lot of us love well-reasoned, informative discussion, but frankly, the constant drone of "Kool-Aid" type remarks and the incredible hyperbole and exaggerations in this forum have become tiresome. It's a big reason I don't venture into this forum very often anymore.
Yet all the while your side did the very same I, and many others, didn't take our ball and go home. We stood in there and continued the discussion.
Yet all the while your side did the very same I, and many others, didn't take our ball and go home. We stood in there and continued the discussion.
"The other side" as you see it is a trickle compared to a flood on this forum. And there is much more hyperbole on the right around here.
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"The other side" as you see it is a trickle compared to a flood on this forum. And there is much more hyperbole on the right around here.
Is it my fault most people on BGP are Conservatives? Could there be a reason for that? :D

 

As to the hyperbole, of course in your mind it's that way, you'd refuse to see it on your side of the aisle. When Bush was in office, there was plenty of it.

Is it my fault most people on BGP are Conservatives? Could there be a reason for that? :D

 

As to the hyperbole, of course in your mind it's that way, you'd refuse to see it on your side of the aisle. When Bush was in office, there was plenty of it.

 

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Is it my fault most people on BGP are Conservatives? Could there be a reason for that? :D

 

As to the hyperbole, of course in your mind it's that way, you'd refuse to see it on your side of the aisle. When Bush was in office, there was plenty of it.

I never said there wasn't hyperbole on the left here ... it's still a trickle compared to the flood from the right.

 

Again, another misassessment of my views.

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Oh cool - the support group.

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