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carlieraiderfan thinks Simon Kenton needs to prepare better, do you agree?

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Dont count on Crane being the featured back.

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Like that really matters any more. Well, he didnt transfer to Highlands and his last name isnt Moss, so he may find some hurdles in playing the 2010 season.

 

All man, I can't stop laughing on that one.:isurrender:

 

For some reason. I thought that Crane did play Varsity this past year for Beechwood or maybe even as a Soph.

 

Get ready!

All man, I can't stop laughing on that one.:isurrender:

 

For some reason. I thought that Crane did play Varsity this past year for Beechwood or maybe even as a Soph.

 

Get ready!

 

He did play as a Soph. I don't think he did as a Jr.

He did play as a Soph. I don't think he did as a Jr.

 

 

You are correct. He can't stay healthy. He missed most of his soph season due to injury. As a junior, he sat out all summer workout's, practice, and pre-season games...he finally dressed to play against HHS and reinjured himself during warm-ups and was out the remainder of the season.

 

He was at the BW FB meeting a couple of weeks ago so it's surprising to hear he's back at SK. Oh well, he wasn't going to be the featured back at BW either...

 

Kinda makes ya wonder if he knew he was headed back to SK because he quit coming to practices and games mid-way through the season and barely interracted with the team...

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You are correct. He can't stay healthy. He missed most of his soph season due to injury. As a junior, he sat out all summer workout's, practice, and pre-season games...he finally dressed to play against HHS and reinjured himself during warm-ups and was out the remainder of the season.

 

He was at the BW FB meeting a couple of weeks ago so it's surprising to hear he's back at SK. Oh well, he wasn't going to be the featured back at BW either...

 

Kinda makes ya wonder if he knew he was headed back to SK because he quit coming to practices and games mid-way through the season and barely interracted with the team...

 

 

He is a better lb than rb.

He is a better lb than rb.

 

Agree...he'll be better off at SK. Hopefully he'll get healthy, but he has a pretty nasty injury and was told he would have a very tough time shaking it.

Agree...he'll be better off at SK. Hopefully he'll get healthy, but he has a pretty nasty injury and was told he would have a very tough time shaking it.

Maybe he'll stay healthy if he concentrates on defense? Heard he tried to come back way too early for the type of injury he had?

I think for any team to get better they have to play good competition. I don't subscribe to the "They must play a particular size school" thought, but a team has to play competition that is as good as they are, and they have to play competition that is better then they are. In other words, you can't always play teams that you know, or reasonably think, you are going to beat. That practice will not mentally prepare a team to play the good teams that they will face in the playoffs. Another point: if a team is going to win the big games in the playoffs, they need to win some games that they are not expected to win, that boosts moral and provides the mental edge needed.

 

Not speaking of Simon Kenton specifically, just a general comment about football.

Here is my two cents worth from a Saint X point of view.

1) Play as many playoff games at home. This sounds simple but frankly T and X have dominated their district so if you go deeper into the playoffs, X and T carry the #1 seed so when region 2 plays region 4 or whatever, they get the home game 1/2 of the time guaranteed then many times the #2, 3, or 4 seed has advanced so they get to play at home due to the higher seed.

 

2) Play comparable teams or X and/or T in the regular season both at the varsity and JV/freshmen level. Most 6A teams have 3, maybe 4 district games maybe 2 rivalry games. Get the kids used to playing against the bullies on the block and maybe the second time around, SK is used to the speed, depth, etc on T and X. If you have a budget for football, throw some at the freshman/jv level to take a trip down south. With the public/private feud, both T and X have room on their schedules. If T and X are out of the question, there are 10 teams on the Ohio side that are comparable.

 

 

3) Learn tendencies of T and X. T was proud of the "playing fast" at the start of the games and overwhelm some opponents quickly including St X.

St X has copied that and seemed to overwhelm SK early but SK outplayed them for 3 quarters. Getting in and out of huddles quickly, 2 minute offense to begin the game, punt team getting set quickly, etc are things that give T and X an early advantage. Learn that X throws outside and/or deep rather than crossing patterns. Know that Trinity has QBs that can scramble but usually scramble one way. Know that Trinity returns punts to their sideline side more times than not. Know that Trinity's d line love to switch gaps just before snap so have audibles to take advantage.

 

4) Special teams- this is where depth comes in handy. Both teams have had excellent kicking and punting specialists( Bironas, Tydlacka, Daughtery, Gray, etc) but usually have great coverage teams as well. That comes from playing football from the 3rd grade on and knowing how to stay in lanes plus having enough bodies for 22 starters and more on the special teams. Trinity does play their 1st team defensive starters more on kick and punt coverage and they probably have a highest percentage of fake punts in the commonwealth. Get somebody to put the ball into the end zone( see soccer teams for kickers) and eliminate the returns.

 

5) Bodies- Generally it starts in February of their 8th grade year where the weight rooms open up after they register for their high school. Coach Maddox at T will get them lifting along with whoever is Coach Martin's replacement at X. Notice how important that Coach Kelly thinks about the strength and conditioning position. Coach Maddox is a former head coach. You also need to know that my sons freshmen year, we had 124 players come out for the freshman team and they ended with 118. I think Trinity had 96 so there are alot of bodies to choose from. One all state lineman from Manual told me that X and T lineman hold all of the time because if they don't, they will bring in someone who will. We had 7 (Gold, green, white, red white blue black) strings freshman year and we played 10 minute quarters for longer games. Sophomore numbers drop off about 40%. In 2005, after winning state in 2004, we had 150 people for the JV and Varsity teams. So roughly 274 players wanted to play football. Somewhere the coaches find 22 to play!

 

I wish SK the best of luck in the future. I admired them for not folding after Simpson got hurt in the third quarter playoff game last year. They showed they were much more than one player. The QB just willed the whole team to respond and compete and he is back this year.

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I see Sk dominating 6a again this year they won't miss a beat and will beat Ryle by 20 or more.

I see Sk dominating 6a again this year they won't miss a beat and will beat Ryle by 20 or more.

 

So you are saying losing one of the best lines I have seen in quite some time in our area isn't going to hurt them?

So you are saying losing one of the best lines I have seen in quite some time in our area isn't going to hurt them?

 

Nope SK has plenty of talent returning there o-line will be bigger this year across the board.

Nope SK has plenty of talent returning there o-line will be bigger this year across the board.

 

I will have to disagree. They do not have replacements that will produce the same results. Of course, that will be seen soon enough.

SK's line will be the key, they lost some very talented guys up front. Patrick gained some valuable experience after the Pic injury but who will fill the other four spots? I think Lockard has the look of a potential G, the kid is a monster. I expect SK to be very solid once again but I'm not banking on a 20 point win over the Raiders. Good news is no longer are the days of 45 players on the roster, competition is a good thing during the offseason, it leads to individual improvement.

SK's line will be the key, they lost some very talented guys up front. Patrick gained some valuable experience after the Pic injury but who will fill the other four spots? I think Lockard has the look of a potential G, the kid is a monster. I expect SK to be very solid once again but I'm not banking on a 20 point win over the Raiders. Good news is no longer are the days of 45 players on the roster, competition is a good thing during the offseason, it leads to individual improvement.

 

That sounds much more realistic. There is no doubt they lost talent up front. It just seems hard to say that they wont miss a beat.:idunno:

They will have more size this year and i think Lorckard will be playing fullback just looking at there roster they will have 8 or 9 kids over 240 pounds.

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