The most common scream I hear at games is "THREE SECONDS, REF!!!" Sometimes they're right. Often times, they're wrong. So, for the non-officials let me know which of the following, if any, are violations.

 

Offense is always designated by "A."

 

1. A5 is positioned on the foul line. His team is in the frontcourt with the ball. Part of his right foot is on the foul line for more than 3 seconds while the ball is being passed around.

 

2. A1 is taking the ball out of bounds in A's backcourt on the side near the division line. A5 is posted up with his man behind him in the middle of the lane for 3 seconds. A1 has yet to throw the ball in.

 

3. A1 takes the ball out on the side near the division line and throws it into A2 who is in A's backcourt. A5 is posted in the lane for 3 seconds while A2 is being pressured in the backcourt.

 

4. A has the ball in its frontcourt. A1 is dribbling near the top of the key. A5 is in the lane. Right before he's been in the lane for 3 seconds B1 deflects the ball away from A1 and there is a scramble for the ball. A5 never leaves the lane.

 

5. A5 is in the lane . At two seconds, A1 shoots the ball. It hits the rim and A2 rebounds it but doesn't shoot yet. A5 has never left the lane.

 

6. A5 is posted in the lane. At two seconds A1 passes him the ball. A5 catches it, dribbles once to his left and then back to his right without leaving the lane. He pump fakes and then shoots.

 

Any of these a violation?

6 is the only definite 3 seconds IMO

I'm guessing the last one only.

 

In a high school game a kid can stand in the lane longer than 3 seconds easy without a call when he doesnt have the ball.

Reason, the opposite official can be watching the paint then the ball would swing to his side and he has priority of watching the ball, while opposite official can then begin to count.

 

"Three Seconds" is akin to the "Balk" in baseball....even "Over and Back".

I'm guessing the last one only.

 

In a high school game a kid can stand in the lane longer than 3 seconds easy without a call when he doesnt have the ball.

Reason, the opposite official can be watching the paint then the ball would swing to his side and he has priority of watching the ball, while opposite official can then begin to count.

 

"Three Seconds" is akin to the "Balk" in baseball....even "Over and Back".

 

You certainly point out the challenge of a 2-man crew which is why I said that sometimes the complaint is valid.

 

However, for this exciting exercise lets assume the lead official is 100% watching the lane.

6 is the only definite 3 seconds IMO

 

Without giving a yea or nay to your answer I'll ask why you think 6 is or the others arent.

The most common scream I hear at games is "THREE SECONDS, REF!!!" Sometimes they're right. Often times, they're wrong. So, for the non-officials let me know which of the following, if any, are violations.

 

Offense is always designated by "A."

 

1. A5 is positioned on the foul line. His team is in the frontcourt with the ball. Part of his right foot is on the foul line for more than 3 seconds while the ball is being passed around.

A literal interpretation would make this a violation, I think. Practically, it wouldn't be called nor should it be. But, I think as the rules read, this should be a violation.

 

2. A1 is taking the ball out of bounds in A's backcourt on the side near the division line. A5 is posted up with his man behind him in the middle of the lane for 3 seconds. A1 has yet to throw the ball in.

No violation; the ball must be in the frontcourt before any 3 second count would start. Additionally, I'd assume the ball must be in play before you could be called for 3 seconds.

 

3. A1 takes the ball out on the side near the division line and throws it into A2 who is in A's backcourt. A5 is posted in the lane for 3 seconds while A2 is being pressured in the backcourt.

See #2: No violation because the ball is in the backcourt.

 

4. A has the ball in its frontcourt. A1 is dribbling near the top of the key. A5 is in the lane. Right before he's been in the lane for 3 seconds B1 deflects the ball away from A1 and there is a scramble for the ball. A5 never leaves the lane.

I'd say it's not 3 seconds because A's team lost control of the ball. For a 3 second violation to occur, the perp's team must have the ball the entire 3 seconds.

 

5. A5 is in the lane . At two seconds, A1 shoots the ball. It hits the rim and A2 rebounds it but doesn't shoot yet. A5 has never left the lane.

No violation. A shot occurred.

 

6. A5 is posted in the lane. At two seconds A1 passes him the ball. A5 catches it, dribbles once to his left and then back to his right without leaving the lane. He pump fakes and then shoots.

He should be okay, as he's attempting to score.

Any of these a violation?

 

It's time for the moment of truth.

I see that, for the '09 - '10 season, 3 seconds is a point of emphasis.

The most common scream I hear at games is "THREE SECONDS, REF!!!" Sometimes they're right. Often times, they're wrong. So, for the non-officials let me know which of the following, if any, are violations.

 

Offense is always designated by "A."

 

1. A5 is positioned on the foul line. His team is in the frontcourt with the ball. Part of his right foot is on the foul line for more than 3 seconds while the ball is being passed around.

 

2. A1 is taking the ball out of bounds in A's backcourt on the side near the division line. A5 is posted up with his man behind him in the middle of the lane for 3 seconds. A1 has yet to throw the ball in.

 

3. A1 takes the ball out on the side near the division line and throws it into A2 who is in A's backcourt. A5 is posted in the lane for 3 seconds while A2 is being pressured in the backcourt.

 

4. A has the ball in its frontcourt. A1 is dribbling near the top of the key. A5 is in the lane. Right before he's been in the lane for 3 seconds B1 deflects the ball away from A1 and there is a scramble for the ball. A5 never leaves the lane.

 

5. A5 is in the lane . At two seconds, A1 shoots the ball. It hits the rim and A2 rebounds it but doesn't shoot yet. A5 has never left the lane.

 

6. A5 is posted in the lane. At two seconds A1 passes him the ball. A5 catches it, dribbles once to his left and then back to his right without leaving the lane. He pump fakes and then shoots.

 

Any of these a violation?

 

Basketball rules aren't my strength - assuming I have one at all - but I'll try:

 

1) Yes, violation. Player must be compeltely outside lines.

2) Yes, violaton. Count starts when player is handed ball by ref.

3) No violation wile ball in backcourt.

4) Yes violation. Team hasn't officially lost control of ball, only the player, so count continues (I think).

5) No violation. Count resets at time of shot.

6) No violation. If he gets ball before 3-second count, he gets a new 3-seconds once he has the ball (again, I think).

It's time for the moment of truth.

 

Nice work. You only missed #4.

Basketball rules aren't my strength - assuming I have one at all - but I'll try:

 

1) Yes, violation. Player must be compeltely outside lines.

2) Yes, violaton. Count starts when player is handed ball by ref.

3) No violation wile ball in backcourt.

4) Yes violation. Team hasn't officially lost control of ball, only the player, so count continues (I think).

5) No violation. Count resets at time of shot.

6) No violation. If he gets ball before 3-second count, he gets a new 3-seconds once he has the ball (again, I think).

 

Not bad for a baseball rules hound.

 

#2 incorrect. The count doesn't start until the ball is in the frontcourt.

#4 nice work.

#6 right but for the wrong reason.

 

#6 is one that people often scream about incorrectly. By rule the count is suspended if the player is making a move to score. If the count is suspended and then the player ends up not shooting its then called a 3 second violation.

Basketball rules aren't my strength - assuming I have one at all - but I'll try:

 

1) Yes, violation. Player must be compeltely outside lines.

2) Yes, violaton. Count starts when player is handed ball by ref.

3) No violation wile ball in backcourt.

4) Yes violation. Team hasn't officially lost control of ball, only the player, so count continues (I think).

5) No violation. Count resets at time of shot.

6) No violation. If he gets ball before 3-second count, he gets a new 3-seconds once he has the ball (again, I think).

 

#6 read CC's interpertation. He would be called for 3 secs if he would have passed ball back out and not attempted a shot. It's the act of shooting, that keeps it from being a violation.

7) A, inbounding ball under A's basket. A Player posts in lane for 3 seconds awaiting inbound pass. Violation?

Not bad for a baseball rules hound.

 

#2 incorrect. The count doesn't start until the ball is in the frontcourt.

#4 nice work.

#6 right but for the wrong reason.

 

#6 is one that people often scream about incorrectly. By rule the count is suspended if the player is making a move to score. If the count is suspended and then the player ends up not shooting its then called a 3 second violation.

 

I protest your grading of my #6 answer. Your example included the fact that he did end up shooting the ball, so I took that into consideration in my answer that he would get (a new) 3 seconds to shoot. I am going to give myself 5 of 6, which is probably good enough to put me on the floor of most high school games.

7) A, inbounding ball under A's basket. A Player posts in lane for 3 seconds awaiting inbound pass. Violation?

 

If the 3 seconds occurred after the A inbounding player had been handed the ball by the ref, then yes.

 

That's originally what I thought Clyde's #2 question was asking and misread the part about it being in the backcourt.

If the 3 seconds occurred after the A inbounding player had been handed the ball by the ref, then yes.

 

That's originally what I thought Clyde's #2 question was asking and misread the part about it being in the backcourt.

 

There is no 3 seconds on an inbound play. The count doesn't start until the ball is inbounded.