August 18, 200521 yr Thats what I am talking about, we have a county school (Graves County) which is 4A, can only draw from 40,000 people. Devide the # of 4A Schools in the Ville by the population. See what you get. If you don't like the result, move to Louisville...
August 18, 200521 yr :lol: Which rules? If you're talking about the open enrollment, yes, the JCPS adopted that and set the rules. If you're talking athletic rules, then, no, we didn't set the rules, by ourselves that is. The KHSAA, of which schools in the JCPS are members of, and have representatives within, sets the rules. And, since when is having an advantage synonomous with unfair? :confused: I live in Louisville, where I can drive 3 minutes to my nearest Kroger. The rest of my family lives in Leitchfield, where they must drive 30+ miles to get to the nearest Kroger. That's an advantage I have...what's unfair about it? You have to remember RM, that we live in a society that is teaching that it is all about ME. So everyone thinks that if I don't have it, then it must be unfair.
August 18, 200521 yr ^ When did the KHSAA do away with the 4 classifications (A through 4A)? Basketball season begins, baseball season, soccer season, etc, etc. I know this is a football thread, but I was thinking the topic had gone a little bit more inconclusive than just football. Maybe I am wrong and if I am ....skip to next post.
August 18, 200521 yr Author If you want that kind of advantage, move to Louisville. It's really simple. We all make our choices. If that's what's important to you, then you should do what it takes to put yourself in the position to benefit from the advantages. If you think the move to open enrollment was for athletic purposes, you obviously have no knowledge of the state of education in Jefferson County prior to open enrollment. You want to know why private schools have such tradition here? Go back 20-30 years and look at the state of public education in Jefferson County at that time, and the bussing, etc. FYI I lived in Louisville for 2 years and I loved it, no complaints. I had to move back because I had a baby boy and we wanted to move back so he could see his grandparents. I don't think that open enrollment was intended for athletic reasons, I never said that, there are just benefits that lie there that most other schools in the state can't take advantage of, that is all.
August 18, 200521 yr Author Devide the # of 4A Schools in the Ville by the population. See what you get. If you don't like the result, move to Louisville... You can divide it any way you want, the fact of the matter is the kids can go to any school they choose, for any reason.
August 18, 200521 yr You can divide it any way you want, the fact of the matter is the kids can go to any school they choose, for any reason. The fact is you CAN'T go to any school you want. Kids reside in districts and they go to their district school unless they want to participate in a program that doesn't exist at their school. If you don't believe me just try to enroll your child at the school of your choice after the 8th grade. On a lighter note, you and your spouse seem to be doing your part in increasing the pool of talent in Graves County. Keep up the good work.
August 18, 200521 yr Just as a piece of information. My sister-in-law lives in Michigan where they have open enrollment. She tried to enroll her child at the school of her choice and was told they were full. She would have to go somewhere else.
August 18, 200521 yr Author The fact is you CAN'T go to any school you want. Kids reside in districts and they go to their district school unless they want to participate in a program that doesn't exist at their school. If you don't believe me just try to enroll your child at the school of your choice after the 8th grade. On a lighter note, you and your spouse seem to be doing your part in increasing the pool of talent in Graves County. Keep up the good work. Yeah, you said after 8th grade, before high school, the options are open. I am only stating what I am seeing and I think that people are reinforcing what I thought. How long has Louisville Holy Cross been in existence? I have noticed that in just a short amount of time they have been right up there with the big dogs in Class A. I am not whining about it, just stating what I am noticing. Are they benefiting from open enrollment?
August 18, 200521 yr FYI I lived in Louisville for 2 years and I loved it, no complaints. I had to move back because I had a baby boy and we wanted to move back so he could see his grandparents. I don't think that open enrollment was intended for athletic reasons, I never said that, there are just benefits that lie there that most other schools in the state can't take advantage of, that is all. The benefits are the result of our community deciding what was best for our kids, and working to make that happen. Because we have a larger population, of course we have the advantage of numbers. But, that is what an urban center will have regardless of where it's located. Lexington has a numbers advantage, population-wise, Bowling Green does as well. I'm not sure what the district restrictions or policies are in those cities, but can you deny that Warren Central or Paul Dunbar doesn't have a numbers advantage over, say, Graves County as well? The fact of the matter is, we do have benefits, and there's nothing unfair about those benefits. The fact is that there is never going to be a fair and level playing field, because if there were, every team would win every game, and no school would have any advantage over another. The fact of the matter is that life isn't fair, and we all make do the best we can in the situation we're dealt.
August 18, 200521 yr It is unfair but it is the situation no matter. Louisville and Lexington schools have had an advantage forever. I believe it is common knowledge that at least in basketball that when you get to the state tournament, 1)the public schools are not rooting for the private schools to win; 2)if you are not from Lex or Louis you are not rooting for either of those schools to win.
August 18, 200521 yr It is unfair but it is the situation no matter. Louisville and Lexington schools have had an advantage forever. I believe it is common knowledge that at least in basketball that when you get to the state tournament, 1)the public schools are not rooting for the private schools to win; 2)if you are not from Lex or Louis you are not rooting for either of those schools to win. What's unfair? Unfair would mean that we were doing something against the rules. The fact that we have a larger population is not unfair. It's simply a reality of our geography.
August 18, 200521 yr Author It is unfair but it is the situation no matter. Louisville and Lexington schools have had an advantage forever. I believe it is common knowledge that at least in basketball that when you get to the state tournament, 1)the public schools are not rooting for the private schools to win; 2)if you are not from Lex or Louis you are not rooting for either of those schools to win. Yeah, exactly. In Mayfield HS, we pretty much make do with what the community provides us, with the occasional transfer here and there. I think that it is way more cool to win with a team that had a lot of heart from a small community where expectations are high, it makes those state championships that much more special. With open enrollment in Louisville, it just seems like it would take away from that.
August 18, 200521 yr Yeah, exactly. In Mayfield HS, we pretty much make do with what the community provides us, with the occasional transfer here and there. I think that it is way more cool to win with a team that had a lot of heart from a small community where expectations are high, it makes those state championships that much more special. With open enrollment in Louisville, it just seems like it would take away from that. Even if Louisville had no open enrollment, the reality of the number of students in public schools would STILL render them dominant in sports over rural Kentucky. There may be more parity among Jefferson County schools, but it would do nothing to create parity between Jefferson County and the state.
August 18, 200521 yr What's unfair? Unfair would mean that we were doing something against the rules. The fact that we have a larger population is not unfair. It's simply a reality of our geography. Unfair to me does not mean that there is anything going wrong. I think it is unfair that our society values the accomplishments of a professional athlete over the accomplishments of a teacher, police officer, military person. To me, it is unfair. But it is also, just the way it is. I live with it, deal with it and go on because it is not going to change.
August 18, 200521 yr Author Even if Louisville had no open enrollment, the reality of the number of students in public schools would STILL render them dominant in sports over rural Kentucky. There may be more parity among Jefferson County schools, but it would do nothing to create parity between Jefferson County and the state. Yeah, you said it, there would probably be more parity but I don't see open enrollment going away, too many benefits. The only thing us rural schools can do is work harder and improve year after year, push our kids to the limit.
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