My son got the KEES money all four years at EKU and my daughter has received it for this year. I have heard the rumor for years now, too.

 

I thought the Lottery money was partly for education, too. I remember that being a HUGE selling point for it being voted in.

 

About thousand threads already on this but don't you know that gambling is the cureall for societal problems in this state.

I never took the harder classes in high school and never struggled or had a problem in college or in life.

 

I have a child in some of the AP classes and most of what she has studied in the harder classes, she will never ever use in her life unless she is on some game show.

 

That said, she will continue to take the AP classes as she makes her way through high school because that is what is expected of her in today's society.

 

How does she know what she does/will need in the future? I would assume that the more knowledge gained, the better able she'll be to be competitive in an ever changing society.

How does she know what she does/will need in the future? I would assume that the more knowledge gained, the better able she'll be to be competitive in an ever changing society.

 

This reminds me of a topic I was given in college to write about: Are knowledge and wisdom the same thing? Tangent to that are, Does one ever stop learning? and Are knowledge and education the same thing.

 

Probably the most facinating topic I ever wrote about.

As a former high school student in Kentucky I never thought about KEES money until I actually got into college. I sure am glad I did well in high school though. It helps out a ton.

 

Agreed, I think high school administrators should really try to make the students realize just how much kees can help students planning to attend college.

This reminds me of a topic I was given in college to write about: Are knowledge and wisdom the same thing? Tangent to that are, Does one ever stop learning? and Are knowledge and education the same thing.

 

Probably the most facinating topic I ever wrote about.

 

When God gave Solomon the choice of anything he wanted, Solomon chose wisdom. God was so pleased with Solomon's choice, he gave him everything else too.

 

But unfortunately, politicians cannot test wisdom and it is overlooked in importance.

How does she know what she does/will need in the future? I would assume that the more knowledge gained, the better able she'll be to be competitive in an ever changing society.

 

I am going out on a limb here and saying that reading Shaekespaere or however you spell it, she will never use in her life.

 

Unless she becomes and English teacher and then she could choose to read it.

 

We waste a lot time in school.

I am going out on a limb here and saying that reading Shaekespaere or however you spell it, she will never use in her life.

 

Unless she becomes and English teacher and then she could choose to read it.

 

We waste a lot time in school.

 

 

Education is about more than the basics, you know. How does a child develop his/her sense of "SELF" without exposure to things like classic literature? And are you telling me that you never read Shakespeare in school? There is a broader purpose to education than learning for survival.

I am going out on a limb here and saying that reading Shaekespaere or however you spell it, she will never use in her life.

 

Unless she becomes and English teacher and then she could choose to read it.

 

We waste a lot time in school.

LBBC- at risk of being offensive, for a teacher, you have the most bizzarre theories on education that I've heard. Do you think that reading works like Shakespeare, which involve reading between the lines to find literary parallels and such can improve our comprehension of more necessary reading? Do you not think that abstract concepts of Calculus that require high-levels of logic can improve our ability to solve problems of a more concrete matter?

The one downside to the KEES concept is that it can cause one to sacrifice education attainment in high school in the name of "more money."

 

If you're not willing to challenge yourself academically due to the fear that the tougher class will result in a lower grade you are , in the long run, hurting yourself.

 

 

I also sometimes wonder if teachers might be tempted to give more A's to help their students get more money for college, especially if the child has a great financial need.

Education is about more than the basics, you know. How does a child develop his/her sense of "SELF" without exposure to things like classic literature? And are you telling me that you never read Shakespeare in school? There is a broader purpose to education than learning for survival.

 

It was assigned but I didn't read it. Just listened enough in class to pass the test. Except for the Julius Caesar part we had to memorize. I am thankful I learned that because I would never know my true self without Friends, Romans, Countrymen, I come hear not to bury Caesar but to praise him, or something like that.:D

LBBC- at risk of being offensive, for a teacher, you have the most bizzarre theories on education that I've heard. Do you think that reading works like Shakespeare, which involve reading between the lines to find literary parallels and such can improve our comprehension of more necessary reading? Do you not think that abstract concepts of Calculus that require high-levels of logic can improve our ability to solve problems of a more concrete matter?

 

I think we try and shove every kid in the same box, cookie cutter or whatever analogy you want to use so that we can feel good about ourselves as a society and we are losing kid after kid after kid to any type of education and creating a society that can't do the things necessary for life survival because we want to tell ourselves how good we are doing by having a kid take Algebra II that can't make correct change.

 

We are losing handfuls of kids every single day who can't possibly do Geometry and Algebra II because they can't add, subtract, handle fractions, percents, etc, etc, but we CAN'T teach them that stuff in HS because we are required to have them in Algebra I, Algebra II and Geometry. Every single cotton picking kid whether they can do it or not.

 

It breaks my heart to see us putting kids out in the world because they don't have the basic skills they need but we want to pat ourselves on the back that they studied matrices.

I also sometimes wonder if teachers might be tempted to give more A's to help their students get more money for college, especially if the child has a great financial need.

 

Parents have complained to schools about hard grading scales and many schools went away from the 95 or higher to 100 being an A to a more 90, 92, 93 and higher being an A because of the KEES money.

Education is about more than the basics, you know. How does a child develop his/her sense of "SELF" without exposure to things like classic literature? And are you telling me that you never read Shakespeare in school? There is a broader purpose to education than learning for survival.

 

And another thing, I care most about a student simply BEING ABLE TO READ!!!!!!!

 

I am not talking about the AP kid or the top level kid but the kids that are overlooked and can't read.

 

How in the world is a kid going to be motivated to learn to read while in HS when you hand them a Shakesparean novel?

 

Give the kid something they will READ!!!!!!!!!! Isn't that the most important thing for these kids who CAN'T read. Simply that they are LEARNING TO READ!!!!!!!!

 

It won't matter diddly squat about their self or their knowledge of Calculus if they leave us and cannot read and write.

 

And yet because we are stuck in a mindset that someone, somewhere said this novel was a classic that we have to read it.

 

Who determines that it was a classic anyway?

Please note, that none of my rants are aimed at those who I quote. I have a great deal of respect for each and my heart bleeds for those kids that are flunking out of school every single day and leaving us without the basic skills to function in life because we are trying to make every single kid an AP/top 10 kid.

LBBC- at risk of being offensive, for a teacher, you have the most bizzarre theories on education that I've heard. Do you think that reading works like Shakespeare, which involve reading between the lines to find literary parallels and such can improve our comprehension of more necessary reading? Do you not think that abstract concepts of Calculus that require high-levels of logic can improve our ability to solve problems of a more concrete matter?

 

Yeah, I won't be invited to any NEA meetings. :D:D