August 6, 200917 yr Author If an MLB player needs someone to "lead him" and show him how to work hard, they won't me MLB players very long. :thumb::thumb: Pathetic excuse the Dunn bashers use.
August 6, 200917 yr It is amazing that some posters don't want a player that produces 200 runs a season in the Reds lineup. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!
August 6, 200917 yr It is amazing that some posters don't want a player that produces 200 runs a season in the Reds lineup. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!! How do you get 200?
August 6, 200917 yr Exactly, where do you think he picked it up. Dunn and Griffey set the example for everyone the last several years.:puke: I would say this applies to Griffey, but not Dunn. Dunn was just a low-key type of guy. Big guys like him always seem to be moving a little slower (probably because they are). I think his poor fielding - and it was indeed very poor - sometimes gave the false impression that he wasn't hustling, when in reality it was simply that he had no clue how to judge a fly ball. Griffey, however, was an entirely different story and I fully agree he set a very poor tone for the younger players.
August 8, 200917 yr Did Dunn have any offers from anyone besides the Nationals? Don't know, don't really care. Doesn't matter. He got a great offer from the Nats. One that was much bigger than anything the Reds could compete with.
August 8, 200917 yr It is amazing that some posters don't want a player that produces 200 runs a season in the Reds lineup. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!! 200 runs would be quite the feat.
August 8, 200917 yr So these guys don't know what it means to play hard? I've never for a second believed Dunn didn't play hard. His style just didn't seem to be like Pete Rose. Nobody's asking him to show Charlie Hustle stuff. But not once did I ever look at Dunn and think he wouldn't rather be fishing. Could not have said it better myself. Adam Dunn's only "problem" as a player is that he is a below average outfielder. The man gets paid to do one thing and he does that one thing very well.....hit home runs. Everybody wants him to be this and be that instead of appreciating him for what he was and still is, a great power hitter. The reason things are going so good for him now is simply the fact that he is no longer a Red, who IMO have the worst fans in major league baseball. I can't blame the man for wanting to leave and I doubt any amount of money could have got him to stay. Congratulation Dunn for jumping ship while you still could, maybe the "Donkey" is a lot smarter than we all thought. His problem as a player is he's always been made out to be more than he is because he hits a lot of HRs. Fact remains, he's essentially Dave Kingman from the left side of the plate. Stop trying to make him out to be more than what he is. And, by the way, things aren't going so good for him, considering he plays for a worse team than the Reds. At least there he can teach other players how to lose and draw a check. It is amazing that some posters don't want a player that produces 200 runs a season in the Reds lineup. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!! C'mon now, you're smarter than that.
August 9, 200917 yr Nobody's asking him to show Charlie Hustle stuff. But not once did I ever look at Dunn and think he wouldn't rather be fishing. His problem as a player is he's always been made out to be more than he is because he hits a lot of HRs. Fact remains, he's essentially Dave Kingman from the left side of the plate. Stop trying to make him out to be more than what he is. And, by the way, things aren't going so good for him, considering he plays for a worse team than the Reds. At least there he can teach other players how to lose and draw a check. C'mon now, you're smarter than that. You cant pick who you play for and not to mention last time I checked there are 9 players on a baseball field. It takes more than one man to lose or win a game. The guy sucks as an outfielder and that is the only reason we are having this conversation. If he had just one gold glove he would be loved by everybody. I cant think of one Red in the past 10 years I would rather have than him.
August 9, 200917 yr Don't know, don't really care. Doesn't matter. He got a great offer from the Nats. One that was much bigger than anything the Reds could compete with. Huh? The Reds paid him much more. Dunn is making quite a bit less.
August 9, 200917 yr 200 runs would be quite the feat. Guess we'll never know where llbc came up with that #
August 9, 200917 yr Guess we'll never know where llbc came up with that # My post would have been more accurate with this information. Runs Dunn Produced (RBI's + RS - HR) 2004 161 Runs Produced 2005 168 Runs Produced 2006 151 Runs Produced 2007 167 Runs Produced In comparison, Albert Pujols produced 179 runs for the Cardinals last season.
August 9, 200917 yr Nobody's asking him to show Charlie Hustle stuff. But not once did I ever look at Dunn and think he wouldn't rather be fishing. His problem as a player is he's always been made out to be more than he is because he hits a lot of HRs. Fact remains, he's essentially Dave Kingman from the left side of the plate. Stop trying to make him out to be more than what he is. That's not an accurate description AT ALL. His numbers are much more similar to Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew than to Kingman. Kingman never walked more than 62 times in a season and had a career OBP of .302. Dunn will have walked 100 times in a season in 8 of his 9 full seasons after this year and his career OBP is .384. Kingman only reached 40 homers 1 time in 16 seasons. Dunn has accomplished this feat 5 times already. Kingman had 2 seasons of 100 RBIs, Dunn has already had 4 and is heading for a 5th. Dunn is a much more productive hitter than Kingman ever thought about being and that isn't even debatable. That's a really weak comparison on your part. A player that hits a lot of homers and strikes out a bunch does not equal Dave Kingman.
August 9, 200917 yr Author ^ Come on now. This argument is so all over the place it is absurd. :lol: By the way he just hit a HR.
August 10, 200917 yr That's not an accurate description AT ALL. His numbers are much more similar to Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew than to Kingman. Kingman never walked more than 62 times in a season and had a career OBP of .302. Dunn will have walked 100 times in a season in 8 of his 9 full seasons after this year and his career OBP is .384. Kingman only reached 40 homers 1 time in 16 seasons. Dunn has accomplished this feat 5 times already. Kingman had 2 seasons of 100 RBIs, Dunn has already had 4 and is heading for a 5th. Dunn is a much more productive hitter than Kingman ever thought about being and that isn't even debatable. That's a really weak comparison on your part. A player that hits a lot of homers and strikes out a bunch does not equal Dave Kingman. Disagree. Against today's watered-down pitching, Kingman would easily match Dunn's statistics.
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