July 1, 200917 yr Cursing at a school staff member is against the law under KRS. Same as cursing at a police officer or judge. Called verbal abuse of a teacher. I have brought charges on many students for this. To my knowledge it is not illegal to curse at a police officer.
July 1, 200917 yr This may shock you, but I'm in complete agreement. Here's my perspective: With freedoms come responsibility. Responsibility doesn't begin and end with taking ownership simply with what one communicates, or anything of the sort. Responsibility is in recognizing the consequences of what one says. Not only on one's self, but on others. Responsibility is recognizing that words are as lethal as weapons. There's no such thing as (using an extreme example) "I didn't pull the trigger. I just mentioned that I wished he was dead." It means recognizing that wounding with words is damaging to others. It means recognizing that while the freedom may be a right, it should be treated as a privilege. It means recognizing that some things are better left UNsaid. This is a huge issue for me. HUGE. I loathe the way that Americans abuse this right in particular. So many seem to feel that what is their freedom gives them the right to trample on the freedoms and rights of others. Seriously, this is a hot-button topic for me. :thumb:
July 1, 200917 yr Should they be? Absolutely not. Are they? Unfortunately. I agree with Clyde- forcing an employer to keep an unruly employee is an infringement on the employer's rights. The Constitutional right to free speech does not guarantee employment.
July 1, 200917 yr To my knowledge it is not illegal to curse at a police officer. I'd say it would get you a disorderly conduct charge to go along with the ones you were already getting.
July 1, 200917 yr I part from some of my Republican brethren when I state that I am a free speech supporter all the way down the line. Campaign contributions, yes. Mapplethorpe exhibits, yes. Revolutionary discussion yes. Profanity and obscenity, yes. I do not believe there is so-called "hate speech." And anyonymity has been protected since Poor Richard's Almanac. I agree, except maybe for the bold. What about the things Hitler, or others have said? I'm with you from a legal perspective. From a civility perspective, I believe people should be considerate in the words coming from their mouth. Just because a person may have a right to say something, doesn't mean they should say it. :thumb: Freedom of speech is kind of something that you cannot completely have though, obviously. We do constitutionally have the right, but we should still watch our mouths. Most of the time I don't though, I say what I want when I want. I try not to offend or attack anyone personally, but I say what I want.
July 1, 200917 yr They are not protected. Go into your employer and curse the owner or a key customer and see if you keep your gig. You completely misuderstood my post. Do you really think I'm stupid enough to think that if I curse out my employer, I'll still have a job? :ohbrother:
July 1, 200917 yr Cursing at a school staff member is against the law under KRS. Same as cursing at a police officer or judge. Called verbal abuse of a teacher. I have brought charges on many students for this. Under what KRS statute is it a violation of law to curse at a police officer? I wasn't aware there was a specific statute. Under the rights circumstances, disorderly conduct (525.060), harassment (525.070), or Interfering With a Judicial Officer (524.120) might apply, but is there a specific statute that prohibits dropping an f-bomb on a police officer?
July 8, 200917 yr This may shock you, but I'm in complete agreement. Here's my perspective: With freedoms come responsibility. Responsibility doesn't begin and end with taking ownership simply with what one communicates, or anything of the sort. Responsibility is in recognizing the consequences of what one says. Not only on one's self, but on others. Responsibility is recognizing that words are as lethal as weapons. There's no such thing as (using an extreme example) "I didn't pull the trigger. I just mentioned that I wished he was dead." It means recognizing that wounding with words is damaging to others. It means recognizing that while the freedom may be a right, it should be treated as a privilege. It means recognizing that some things are better left UNsaid. This is a huge issue for me. HUGE. I loathe the way that Americans abuse this right in particular. So many seem to feel that what is their freedom gives them the right to trample on the freedoms and rights of others. Seriously, this is a hot-button topic for me. It doesn't shock me at all. Contrary to what you may believe, I don't view you as someone whose views are all totally out of whack with mine. No doubt we differ on some things, but even then, I find your differing positions to be based on well thought out reasons. If anything, I think our differences are caused by the fact that you base more of your positions on compassion and emotion than I do. And while I may disagree on the prudence of doing so, I certainly understand. As I've oft stated, while I disagree with a lot of liberal positions (not saying you are a total liberal, because you are not) I respect the fact that most liberal positions are cradled in the arms of love and compassion.
July 8, 200917 yr I agree, except maybe for the bold. What about the things Hitler, or others have said? :thumb: Freedom of speech is kind of something that you cannot completely have though, obviously. We do constitutionally have the right, but we should still watch our mouths. Most of the time I don't though, I say what I want when I want. I try not to offend or attack anyone personally, but I say what I want. Work on controlling saying what you want. Being more considerate of others will go a long way towards creating a better society and more effective country. Unfortunately, some time ago, it became fashionable to speak your mind without concern about the impact of such speak. I don't know if it was because some macho thing or a result of the Vietnam War protests, but we as a nation adopted this "its all about me" and "I'll do what I want" mentality. I think our country and our society is all the worse because of it. Maybe that book titled "Everything I need for life, I learned in kindergarden" or something like that, is spot on. Edited July 8, 200917 yr by leatherneck
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