And?

 

Just released felons just don't walk out of prison AND get good jobs.

They need to prove themselves AND earn it.

And?

 

Not eligible for employment if that answer is yes.

I would like to see Vick go to the Vikings, even if it is in certain situations. Imagine the backfield of Vick, Adrian Peterson and then motioning Percy Harvin in the back field! That's a dynamic trio

Just released felons just don't walk out of prison AND get good jobs.

They need to prove themselves AND earn it.

 

Not eligible for employment if that answer is yes.

 

Are you trying to say that a released felon cannot get a job? Or are you saying there are certain fields where felons cannot get jobs?

 

As far as "proving" themselves how do you go about that? Talent?

Are you trying to say that a released felon cannot get a job? Or are you saying there are certain fields where felons cannot get jobs?

 

As far as "proving" themselves how do you go about that? Talent?

 

Proving themselves as productive citizens, talent has nothing to do with it.

He has served his time and should be allowed to play. As long as he meets the terms of his release, I see no issue.

Are you trying to say that a released felon cannot get a job? Or are you saying there are certain fields where felons cannot get jobs?

 

As far as "proving" themselves how do you go about that? Talent?

 

In many places convicted felons are not eligible for employment. Does your place of employment hire convicted felons?

Proving themselves as productive citizens, talent has nothing to do with it.

 

So are you saying that ALL felons who are freed should have to "prove" themselves BEFORE they are able to seek employment?

In many places convicted felons are not eligible for employment. Does your place of employment hire convicted felons?

 

Why are we debating "many places" instead of the NFL? Unless you are going to tell me that the NFL is the ONLY place that allows convicted felons to be employed then then "many places" argument is irrelevant.

Why are we debating "many places" instead of the NFL? Unless you are going to tell me that the NFL is the ONLY place that allows convicted felons to be employed then then "many places" argument is irrelevant.

 

Wonder if the NFL employs convicted felons in their management positions? BTW you didn't answer my question.

Wonder if the NFL employs convicted felons in their management positions? BTW you didn't answer my question.

 

Your question (the answer is "no") is immaterial to the discussion.

 

Why are we trying to equate all jobs/careers? No. You cannot get hired by the police if you are a convicted felon. Same with the FBI.

 

So what? We're not talking about a job in law enforcement.

 

Why do we place an extra requirement on someone simply because its a "glamorous" job?

Your question (the answer is "no") is immaterial to the discussion.

 

Why are we trying to equate all jobs/careers? No. You cannot get hired by the police if you are a convicted felon. Same with the FBI.

 

So what? We're not talking about a job in law enforcement.

 

Why do we place an extra requirement on someone simply because its a "glamorous" job?

 

The question is if Vick should be allowed to play. The point is that there are places of business that will not hire you if you are a convicted felon. These are not glamour positions. They range from blue collar to management. That's a fact. So here is the question posed to you. Why should Vick be allowed to play in the NFL if he isn't permitted to work in the places that most of us are employed? Why should he be allowed on the field if he wouldn't be permitted to hold a job in an NFL front office?

The question is if Vick should be allowed to play. The point is that there are places of business that will not hire you if you are a convicted felon. These are not glamour positions. They range from blue collar to management. That's a fact. So here is the question posed to you. Why should Vick be allowed to play in the NFL if he isn't permitted to work in the places that most of us are employed? Why should he be allowed on the field if he wouldn't be permitted to hold a job in an NFL front office?

 

 

Why are we trying to equate certain fields?

 

The NFL is a business. If they thought that employing convicted felons would hurt their business they would not employ convicted felons. Its that simple.

 

Other businesses have to make their own decision. That's my point. Its a business by business employer by employer decision. The fact that ONE or MANY would not hire a felon is 100% immaterial to the decision being made by the NFL and an individual franchise.

 

And who say she wouldn't be allowed to hold a job in an NFL front office?

I disagree, sort of. I think with great coaching he could have been a very good WC offense QB. Short, quick passes, rollouts, it could have been great.

 

He has far and away one of the strongest arms in the game. He is probably the fastest and most athletic QB's to ever come out of college. Why waste that on dink and dunk. I think the zone with the sprint out + bootleg was one the right track. I'm pretty sure they led the league (Gibbs is the best in the business ala Denver, Atl and now Houston at the zone scheme) in rushing. In the past teams have been reluctant to run the QB. With the Wildcat being en vouge he is the ultimate weapon running it. I think wherever he goes there will be a QB in place. This makes accessable to run the ball without losing the face of your franchise. New England has been burned so much by the wildcat + they have the reputation for taking troubled players and keeping them straight.

Why are we trying to equate certain fields?

 

The NFL is a business. If they thought that employing convicted felons would hurt their business they would not employ convicted felons. Its that simple.

 

Other businesses have to make their own decision. That's my point. Its a business by business employer by employer decision. The fact that ONE or MANY would not hire a felon is 100% immaterial to the decision being made by the NFL and an individual franchise.

 

And who say she wouldn't be allowed to hold a job in an NFL front office?

 

You are right, the NFL is a buisness and if they choose to run it that way so be it. You started the thread and asked our opinion and we gave it. I am just saying how I feel about it and if I were King it would be that way.

Maybe if the NFL ran their buisness the other way, they wouldn't have all the arrest they have. I am HUGE Bengals fan but you never see me defending their off field antics.