April 20, 200917 yr Ask those three Somali pirates what they thought of the submissive, weak leader's executive decision. Oh wait... Just because alot of the conservative commentators keep repeating the same talking points about Obama being submissive, weak, etc. doesn't make it so. The country voted for a new direction in foreign policy, a direction of talking before bombs drop and boots hit the ground. I couldn't be happier with the direction things are going in this respect:dancingpa Then I'm happy for you. I am fully 100% aware that BHO won the election...I don't need you or Barry himself to keep telling me that. I'm not 100% sure that "the country" voted for a new direction in foreign policy. There's no way to make that conclusion, unless that had been the only issue in the election. Are you implying that if BHO had won the election by one vote, that the ones that didn't like his policies (voted against him) must now go along with the majority and forget the policies they thought were best for our country??
April 20, 200917 yr Then I'm happy for you. I am fully 100% aware that BHO won the election...I don't need you or Barry himself to keep telling me that. I'm not 100% sure that "the country" voted for a new direction in foreign policy. There's no way to make that conclusion, unless that had been the only issue in the election. Are you implying that if BHO had won the election by one vote, that the ones that didn't like his policies (voted against him) must now go along with the majority and forget the policies they thought were best for our country?? Well Bush lost the election in 2000 and this is what the majority of democrats did. On a serious note, no you shouldn't forget them but it is impossible to disagree with everything an elected official does IMO, yet many of you do. From my perspective that was one of the central themes on Obama's campaign and why I was attracted to his candidacy. So IMO the majority of the country, myself included voted for a new direction on foreign policy and other fronts.
April 20, 200917 yr For what?! There's probably no way I can explain it to you rockmom. If you were a Conservative since birth, an Air Force Brat, a Navy Dad, one that loves the Constitution and how it came together, a *Proud American and a believer of Liberty and Capitalism it would be easier to explain. People like me have never been more left out in the cold than they are right now. *A Proud American does not travel the world apologizing for and acting as if he wants to "change" the greatest country on God's earth, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! I'm one of those arrogant Americans I guess. I'd rather be an arrogant American than anything any other country has to offer. I couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks about it either.
April 20, 200917 yr There's probably no way I can explain it to you rockmom. If you were a Conservative since birth, an Air Force Brat, a Navy Dad, one that loves the Constitution and how it came together, a *Proud American and a believer of Liberty and Capitalism it would be easier to explain. People like me have never been more left out in the cold than they are right now. *A Proud American does not travel the world apologizing for and acting as if he wants to "change" the greatest country on God's earth, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! I'm one of those arrogant Americans I guess. I'd rather be an arrogant American than anything any other country has to offer. I couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks about it either. Because everyone knows you have to be a Conservative to be a proud, constitution loving, believer of Liberty and Capitalism American. Give me a break.
April 20, 200917 yr Well Bush lost the election in 2000 and this is what the majority of democrats did. On a serious note, no you shouldn't forget them but it is impossible to disagree with everything an elected official does IMO, yet many of you do. From my perspective that was one of the central themes on Obama's campaign and why I was attracted to his candidacy. So IMO the majority of the country, myself included voted for a new direction on foreign policy and other fronts. I have agreed with a couple of things this admin has done, the pirate deal being one of them. It may well be "impossible to disagree with everything an elected official does", but from a conservatives view, right now would be a time when it is very near a possibility. If you disagree, then you have no idea what the other side (conservatism) is.
April 20, 200917 yr Because everyone knows you have to be a Conservative to be a proud, constitution loving, believer of Liberty and Capitalism American. Give me a break. Is that what I said? NO! You give me a break. I said a proud American does not travel the world apologizing for and acting as if he wants to "change" the greatest country on earth. It was a very small description of ME. Not one time did I say I was describing you or anyone else. If you are not ME, it would be hard to explain why I WANT BHO IMPEACHED.
April 20, 200917 yr There's probably no way I can explain it to you rockmom. If you were a Conservative since birth, an Air Force Brat, a Navy Dad, one that loves the Constitution and how it came together, a *Proud American and a believer of Liberty and Capitalism it would be easier to explain. People like me have never been more left out in the cold than they are right now. *A Proud American does not travel the world apologizing for and acting as if he wants to "change" the greatest country on God's earth, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! I'm one of those arrogant Americans I guess. I'd rather be an arrogant American than anything any other country has to offer. I couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks about it either. So, because I wasn't an military brat, or in the military, or married into the military I couldn't understand....what is it exactly I couldn't understand? Do you have a lock on patriotism that I could never achieve? Is your grasp on patriotism more than mine? Again, I ask...for what should Obama be impeached?
April 20, 200917 yr So, because I wasn't an military brat, or in the military, or married into the military I couldn't understand....what is it exactly I couldn't understand? Do you have a lock on patriotism that I could never achieve? Is your grasp on patriotism more than mine? Again, I ask...for what should Obama be impeached? The answers quite obvious....because he's not George W. Bush, the greatest President this country has ever seen. Edited April 20, 200917 yr by rockmom Fix quote
April 20, 200917 yr So, because I wasn't an military brat, or in the military, or married into the military I couldn't understand....what is it exactly I couldn't understand? Do you have a lock on patriotism that I could never achieve? Is your grasp on patriotism more than mine? Again, I ask...for what should Obama be impeached?[/QUOTE] The answers quite obvious....because he's not George W. Bush, the greatest President this country has ever seen. I'm so happy you can answer for me hoopboy. I disagree with you though. IMO GW was far from the conservative president I wanted him to be. As a matter of fact, he fell way short of reaching my expectations. Again...Thanks for answering for me.
April 20, 200917 yr So, because I wasn't an military brat, or in the military, or married into the military I couldn't understand....what is it exactly I couldn't understand? Do you have a lock on patriotism that I could never achieve? Is your grasp on patriotism more than mine? Again, I ask...for what should Obama be impeached? Not at all. It boils down to that fact you are not a conservative. The fact that I am a hard core conservative among the other things I described it would be futile for me to try and explain the reasons I want BHO impeached. You simply will not understandme, that's all. I in no way intended for my post to insinuate that you were any less an American/Patriot than I am, although you may be a much different American/patriot. My form of patioitism is no better or more important than yours, just different. That's what makes this country great. I would still like to see him not be my president. What is so hard to understand about me not liking the way he leads? He does nothing in line with my political values (if there is such a thing as values and politics anymore). So, what is there for me to like? Maybe hoopboy can tell you what I like.
April 21, 200917 yr Not at all. It boils down to that fact you are not a conservative. The fact that I am a hard core conservative among the other things I described it would be futile for me to try and explain the reasons I want BHO impeached. You simply will not understandme, that's all. I in no way intended for my post to insinuate that you were any less an American/Patriot than I am, although you may be a much different American/patriot. My form of patioitism is no better or more important than yours, just different. That's what makes this country great. I would still like to see him not be my president. What is so hard to understand about me not liking the way he leads? He does nothing in line with my political values (if there is such a thing as values and politics anymore). So, what is there for me to like? Maybe hoopboy can tell you what I like. First, although I wouldn't characterize myself as a "hard core conservative", I think you've overlooked, or maybe they don't hold weight, some of my posts where I actually am VERY conservative. I don't have a problem if you don't like the way he leads...as long as there is some rationale to that. I assume there is a rational reason, but you've not given any reason. I'm not sure how trying to bridge the gap and find common ground with countries we've not had a good relationship is against your values. We don't exist in this world alone. I can see some very positive potential in swaying Venezuala to a compromise with us. But, I do value compromise very highly. There are times where compromise is not possible. How will we know, though, if it is, or isn't, unless we try? One last thought...if our differences are what make this country great, why is it so inconceivable that the differences Obama brings to the White House are not great as well?
April 21, 200917 yr I'm so happy you can answer for me hoopboy. I disagree with you though. IMO GW was far from the conservative president I wanted him to be. As a matter of fact, he fell way short of reaching my expectations. Again...Thanks for answering for me. Don't bother, you'll only get sarcasm from him.
April 21, 200917 yr First, although I wouldn't characterize myself as a "hard core conservative", I think you've overlooked, or maybe they don't hold weight, some of my posts where I actually am VERY conservative. I don't have a problem if you don't like the way he leads...as long as there is some rationale to that. I assume there is a rational reason, but you've not given any reason. I'm not sure how trying to bridge the gap and find common ground with countries we've not had a good relationship is against your values. We don't exist in this world alone. I can see some very positive potential in swaying Venezuala to a compromise with us. But, I do value compromise very highly. There are times where compromise is not possible. How will we know, though, if it is, or isn't, unless we try? One last thought...if our differences are what make this country great, why is it so inconceivable that the differences Obama brings to the White House are not great as well? I'm sure the differnces BHO brings to the White House are, and will be considered great to some...Not to me though. That's how it goes, Utopia will never exist on this rock. IMO you can't be a little conservative (as I described my conservative values a few weeks ago on this sight), we're simply too far apart to discuss it. I really don't think I need to explain my feelings on the impeachment thing to you. I know many will think I'm just being a racist red neck clinging to my Bible and guns, but I know a useless argument when I see one. BHO has not thrown a single morsel in my slop bucket yet.
April 21, 200917 yr I'm sure the differnces BHO brings to the White House are, and will be considered great to some...Not to me though. That's how it goes, Utopia will never exist on this rock. IMO you can't be a little conservative (as I described my conservative values a few weeks ago on this sight), we're simply too far apart to discuss it. I really don't think I need to explain my feelings on the impeachment thing to you. I know many will think I'm just being a racist red neck clinging to my Bible and guns, but I know a useless argument when I see one. BHO has not thrown a single morsel in my slop bucket yet. I'm not sure how you can say that we're too far apart for me to discuss this with you. You haven't even given me a chance. I don't say this to malign you, but it's not a fair way to determine what I think, or explain what you think. I'm sure you don't mean it this way, but the fact that you've offered no concrete reasons why Obama should be impeached is leading me to the conclusion that it's not anything Obama has done, or hasn't done, or could or would possibly do. I get the feeling that no matter what he could do, you would feel the same. I get the feeling it has nothing to do with politics.
April 21, 200917 yr Didn't BHO pose (grinning like a possum eating saw briars) for some kind of picture with chavez giving him a book about how backwards the US is? ! He had the same exact smile that Reagan did with Gorby in 1981.
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