I am as far right in the political spectrum as anyone I know, I have no problem with what the President did. It is no different than the President bowing to or kissing the ring of the Pope. Or bowing as is custom when meeting with the Japanese officials.

 

Much to do about nothing IMVHO.

 

How about the White House telling you that he did not bow and expecting you to believe that?

In hindsight it must have mattered to the White House. They are now saying it was not a bow.

 

They certainly should have seen the flak that would come about from the far right from those that just can't wait to see President Obama stumble. This reminds me of sharks in a feeding frenzy. Heaven forbid we concern ourselves with actual issues. We have two wars going on, issues with illegal immigration, an economy in shambles, huge healthcare issues and are failing behind in educating our youth. Instead, let's concentrate on the standing/bowing position of our president.

They certainly should have seen the flak that would come about from the far right from those that just can't wait to see President Obama stumble. This reminds me of sharks in a feeding frenzy. Heaven forbid we concern ourselves with actual issues. We have two wars going on, issues with illegal immigration, an economy in shambles, huge healthcare issues and are failing behind in educating our youth. Instead, let's concentrate on the standing/bowing position of our president.

 

Just for the record shown on CNN, the Middle Eastern country see it as Obama bowing to the Saudi king, too. The White House is basically the only ones who say it is not a bow.

 

While I disagree with the bowing, my main issue is how ignorant they are treating people. And for their view, rightfully so.

 

Obama's followers follow him blindly. Whatever he says must be right.

 

They say it was not a bow and his followers will have drunken the koolaid and assume it was not a bow. And the same with spending trillions of dollars. Same with saying we need this when we don't. Same with saying we need that and we don't.

 

Obama's followers blindly follow. That was their mindset, IMVHO, when they said he did not bow. They expect their followers to accept that blindly.

 

That mindset should be offensive to O's supporters.

They certainly should have seen the flak that would come about from the far right from those that just can't wait to see President Obama stumble. This reminds me of sharks in a feeding frenzy. Heaven forbid we concern ourselves with actual issues. We have two wars going on, issues with illegal immigration, an economy in shambles, huge healthcare issues and are failing behind in educating our youth. Instead, let's concentrate on the standing/bowing position of our president.

 

On a separate note, that deserves it own thread, Obama is starting to lose some support among the Democrat liberals who disagree and are disappointed with his decisions on the two wars.

 

My understanding his position now, unlike when he was a Senator, is very similar to the position that W had when he was President.

Once Obama started getting the daily security reports and learned how real the threats against the country are he's changed his tune a little...

Just for the record shown on CNN, the Middle Eastern country see it as Obama bowing to the Saudi king, too. The White House is basically the only ones who say it is not a bow.

 

While I disagree with the bowing, my main issue is how ignorant they are treating people. And for their view, rightfully so.

 

Obama's followers follow him blindly. Whatever he says must be right.

 

They say it was not a bow and his followers will have drunken the koolaid and assume it was not a bow. And the same with spending trillions of dollars. Same with saying we need this when we don't. Same with saying we need that and we don't.

 

Obama's followers blindly follow. That was their mindset, IMVHO, when they said he did not bow. They expect their followers to accept that blindly.

 

That mindset should be offensive to O's supporters.

 

I love that when someone's opinion disagrees with "the other side", the "other side" assumes that it's a result of "blindly following".

To me it's pretty obvious that it was a bow. I think it was wrong to do it but it's no big deal. Many of us knew that with his lack of experience Obama is going to screw up sometimes. Where he's made his bigger mistake is falling into the same pattern as past administrations by denying it and making up a story to cover it. That really surprises me as I would have expected him to say he screwed up and let's move on. As someone else pointed out, we have much bigger problems to focus on.

I didn't mind when Pres. Bush (notice that I used his title, not a letter to represent his name)

 

You can't be serious. For 8 years Bush was referred to as "W".

Just for the record shown on CNN, the Middle Eastern country see it as Obama bowing to the Saudi king, too. The White House is basically the only ones who say it is not a bow.

 

While I disagree with the bowing, my main issue is how ignorant they are treating people. And for their view, rightfully so.

 

Obama's followers follow him blindly. Whatever he says must be right.

 

They say it was not a bow and his followers will have drunken the koolaid and assume it was not a bow. And the same with spending trillions of dollars. Same with saying we need this when we don't. Same with saying we need that and we don't.

 

Obama's followers blindly follow. That was their mindset, IMVHO, when they said he did not bow. They expect their followers to accept that blindly.

 

That mindset should be offensive to O's supporters.

 

Here we go with the "kool-aid" again.

 

You know...some of us could care less about whether it is a bow or not. Some of us didn't care when Pres. Bush held hands with the Saudi king, either.

You can't be serious. For 8 years Bush was referred to as "W".

 

Not by me.

This is hilarious.

 

Now that Obama is in office, we aren't allowed to start threads and include our own opinions in them. We can't call Obama "O", even though Bush has been referred to as "W" or "Dubya" for 8 years.

 

Man o man, the sensitivity of some posters on here now that their guy is in office is comical.

 

 

FWIW, it was clearly a bow.

This is hilarious.

 

Now that Obama is in office, we aren't allowed to start threads and include our own opinions in them. We can't call Obama "O", even though Bush has been referred to as "W" or "Dubya" for 8 years.

 

Man o man, the sensitivity of some posters on here now that their guy is in office is comical.

 

 

FWIW, it was clearly a bow.

 

So...on to something of substance. What do you think the significant/outcome of the bow will be?

So...on to something of substance. What do you think the significant/outcome of the bow will be?

 

100% depends on Obama's actions from there.

 

Will he continue with the subservent foreign relations positions that he is indicated with speeches and actions

 

OR

 

Will he place America as a leader in making foreign relations positions.

 

His bow and comments are a level of concern, nothing more or nothing less. His actions over the next 3-7 years will be the indication of whether the concern was warranted or not.

100% depends on Obama's actions from there.

 

Will he continue with the subservent foreign relations positions that he is indicated with speeches and actions

 

OR

 

Will he place America as a leader in making foreign relations positions.

 

 

Maybe this is an issue of perspective. I don't find Obama subservient in foreign relations, but respectful and diplomatic. I personally feel that is exactly the attitude needed to achieve your second statement.

100% depends on Obama's actions from there.

 

Will he continue with the subservent foreign relations positions that he is indicated with speeches and actions

 

OR

 

Will he place America as a leader in making foreign relations positions.

 

When has America not been the leader in making foreign policy decisions and what from his speeches indicates otherwise? Why does multilateralism in foreign policy always mean America loses to some? In my opinion, it strengthens our power.