January 17, 200917 yr Also, I used to do a lot of the higher reps and it never really worked that well for me. I never do more than 8 reps per workout (lifting weights) now. For my strength training I do no more than 5 reps per set. A good work range is the 8-12 range. Me nor anyone I have ever worked with never responded well to higher reps. By high reps I mean more than 12 or 13. The only time we ever do higher reps is if we want to change a work out up (usually legs)...we will put 225lbs on the bar and do 100 squats. Do as many reps as you can...rest 30 secs...repeat. I've seen powerlifters and bodybuilders puke in trash cans:lol:
January 17, 200917 yr What would you consider higher reps? Also, I'm curious to know, why would I want to do higher reps and lower weights? Any where from 10-15. Normally in the 12 range. Lower weight is only so you can acheive a higher rep. If you are doing 5x5 bench with 225 you sure aren't going to put 225 on there if you want to switch to a 3x10 or higher rep sets.
January 17, 200917 yr Any where from 10-15. Normally in the 12 range. Lower weight is only so you can acheive a higher rep. If you are doing 5x5 bench with 225 you sure aren't going to put 225 on there if you want to switch to a 3x10 or higher rep sets. I wouldn't really consider 12 reps as being high reps. But the reason I asked , you stated early that...you would want to do higher reps and lower weights...for weight loss. I was just curious as to why you have that opinion.
January 17, 200917 yr I wouldn't really consider 12 reps as being high reps. But the reason I asked , you stated early that...you would want to do higher reps and lower weights...for weight loss. I was just curious as to why you have that opinion. Not necessarily weight loss but more for definition. I know you can lose weight doing high weight and low reps. I am currently doing it. But for someone who has low muscle mass and a higher body fat % would they not see a faster fat loss with higher reps? I consider 12 high because normally I only do 3-8 depending on the routine I am doing.
January 17, 200917 yr Not necessarily weight loss but more for definition. I know you can lose weight doing high weight and low reps. I am currently doing it. But for someone who has low muscle mass and a higher body fat % would they not see a faster fat loss with higher reps? I consider 12 high because normally I only do 3-8 depending on the routine I am doing. Not really...but let me add. I've been around powerliftind and bodybuilding for 20 years. I know many competitive guys on the local and national level of both. Most everyone of them do different workouts. Some are high rep some are low. The last 4 Mr. Olympia's have all done totally different workouts. Lee Haney was know for high reps and tons of sets. Dorian, very few sets, moderat reps. Coleman, almost a power lifter, with very few reps. Cutler is kind of a mix of them all. Traditional when I hear low reps than means less than 5. Most of the people I know who train low reps only go low on the last couple of sets. When I hear you say high reps...I'm thinking 15+. Many women get in this trap of thinking. They think really high reps and low weight is going to get them really lean. My wife has won several fitness and figure competitions and she lifts what most would consider heavy.
January 17, 200917 yr Its important to start with the proper diet. I am a proponent of a 50-30-20 mix...although the nutritionist who works for me disagrees;). That means 50% lean proteins, 30% complex carbs (brown rice, oats, and sw pots/yams), and 20% healthy fats. . Where do Mt Dew and donuts fall into these 3? Would multi-colored sprinkled donuts be "complex carbs?"
January 17, 200917 yr Not really...but let me add. I've been around powerliftind and bodybuilding for 20 years. I know many competitive guys on the local and national level of both. Most everyone of them do different workouts. Some are high rep some are low. The last 4 Mr. Olympia's have all done totally different workouts. Lee Haney was know for high reps and tons of sets. Dorian, very few sets, moderat reps. Coleman, almost a power lifter, with very few reps. Cutler is kind of a mix of them all. Traditional when I hear low reps than means less than 5. Most of the people I know who train low reps only go low on the last couple of sets. When I hear you say high reps...I'm thinking 15+. Many women get in this trap of thinking. They think really high reps and low weight is going to get them really lean. My wife has won several fitness and figure competitions and she lifts what most would consider heavy. What I have learned in my short time is diet is everything and what you stated above. Everyone responds differently to various types of routines.
January 17, 200917 yr What I have learned in my short time is diet is everything and what you stated above. Everyone responds differently to various types of routines. In all honesty....its 80%!
January 17, 200917 yr In all honesty....its 80%! It's the hardest to keep up as well. I struggle all the time with eating enough and eating the right stuff.
January 17, 200917 yr Is she working with Beverly?:thumb: Using Beverly supplements yes and I believe a diet that many who use Beverly have utilized.
January 17, 200917 yr Bodybuilding.com (more hardcore) Discussfitness.com (more general population) If the goal is to lose weight and get in shape, I would throw a plug for the "Body for Life Plan" by Bill Phillips, founder of EAS. It is a book which covers diet, exercise, and supplementation. There are forms and tools to assist you along the way. I used it back in the day and had awesome results. But beware, it is very demanding if you do it as directed. The most important thing is discipline relative to your diet. At the end of the day/week, if you are taking in fewer calories than you are burning, you will slowly lose weight. I am in the same boat as you. Trying to get back into strength training and drop 20 lbs. GOOD LUCK YOU US BOTH!
January 17, 200917 yr Using Beverly supplements yes and I believe a diet that many who use Beverly have utilized. Looked familiar...lol. Those guys are great. I'm really good friends with them and have worked with them for years.
January 17, 200917 yr A good work range is the 8-12 range. Me nor anyone I have ever worked with never responded well to higher reps. By high reps I mean more than 12 or 13. The only time we ever do higher reps is if we want to change a work out up (usually legs)...we will put 225lbs on the bar and do 100 squats. Do as many reps as you can...rest 30 secs...repeat. I've seen powerlifters and bodybuilders puke in trash cans:lol: I wasn't saying it didn't work overall, just that it didn't for me. I always saw better results when I stayed around 8. I'd say the most I would do personally would be 10...maximum. But lately I've been doing 8 or 5, or less. But most of my workouts are either 1 workout followed by a long rest (for pure strength) or 5 or 6 consecutive workouts used as a circuit.
January 17, 200917 yr What would you consider higher reps? Also, I'm curious to know, why would I want to do higher reps and lower weights? A lot of people think that is the way to get cut up.
January 17, 200917 yr I think what HB was getting at was not do high weight / low rep type work outs. You obviously want to add muscle but you want to do higher rep lower weight type routines. :thumb:
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