Registration with the Federal Government is the first step in the eventual confiscation. It has happened in at least 2 western democracies and while our Constitution currently has it in there I don't like the idea of there being a national registry of that sort of thing.

 

All it takes a declaration of martial law and the next thing you know the populace is completely unarmed. I am not saying it is likely, but it is a possibility.

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I'm not blind, and your comments are too generalized to define what people who support gun control really feel.

 

I don't hate guns. But, I do hate the misuse of guns, whether that be by a legal or illegal gun owner.

 

My philosophy is simple. The purpose of a weapon is to maim and/or kill. Guns are dangerous objects and if one wishes to own one, then one should be prepared to accept the consequences of misuse. I'm tired of reading newspaper accounts of innocents killed by improper storage or use of guns. I'm tired of hearing that the only way to protect oneself is by owning a gun. I'm tired of being told that I'm naive because I feel that as with any right, comes responsibility and limits. There are limits and responsibilities and dangers attached to all our rights. Requiring one to provide fingerprints and ID's is not only reasonable, but is responsible control for a device specifically manufactured to wound/kill.

 

The bolded I don't mind as long as no federal record of my ownership exists and I don't need a license for anything other than a concealed carry then I am fine with it.

To the part in bold, you are wrong and it shows your lack of knowledge of guns and gun owners if you think that's all guns and gun owners are about.

As to the rest, there are ENOUGH laws in place now deal with problems like these, simple enforcement is all it takes. I'm sick and tired of my rights being whittled down to practically nothing because of people thinking we need more taken away because someone misuses a gun. I'm sick of being treated like a criminal simply because I choose to do what the 2nd Amendment gives me every right to do! I do not want to be finger printed, I committed no crime, it's absurd!

 

Sorry, Rockmom, RTS is dead on and frankly, it's shows your naivete (NO OFFENSE INTENDED AND I'M BEING SERIOUS!) if you really think that is the only purpose for guns. You think they can't be enjoyed as a hobby just for the pleasure of shooting?

Who's infringing? You get to keep your guns.

 

 

Until there is a natural disaster like Katrina - http://www.reason.com/news/show/32966.html

 

If you look on the internet, you will see that most from N.O. that were legal gun owners still have not gotten their guns back. Because they have no documentation because of the floods.

I'm not blind, and your comments are too generalized to define what people who support gun control really feel.

 

I don't hate guns. But, I do hate the misuse of guns, whether that be by a legal or illegal gun owner.

 

My philosophy is simple. The purpose of a weapon is to maim and/or kill. Guns are dangerous objects and if one wishes to own one, then one should be prepared to accept the consequences of misuse. I'm tired of reading newspaper accounts of innocents killed by improper storage or use of guns. I'm tired of hearing that the only way to protect oneself is by owning a gun. I'm tired of being told that I'm naive because I feel that as with any right, comes responsibility and limits. There are limits and responsibilities and dangers attached to all our rights. Requiring one to provide fingerprints and ID's is not only reasonable, but is responsible control for a device specifically manufactured to wound/kill.

Anybody with some cash in his or her pocket can buy a firearm illegally on the street. By your logic, then every American is a potential handgun wielding killer. Should we all be fingerprinted?

Australia, Japan and on and on and on....

 

How do the homicide rates in those countries compare with the U.S.? Just curious...

I'm not blind, and your comments are too generalized to define what people who support gun control really feel.

 

I don't hate guns. But, I do hate the misuse of guns, whether that be by a legal or illegal gun owner.

 

My philosophy is simple. The purpose of a weapon is to maim and/or kill. Guns are dangerous objects and if one wishes to own one, then one should be prepared to accept the consequences of misuse. I'm tired of reading newspaper accounts of innocents killed by improper storage or use of guns. I'm tired of hearing that the only way to protect oneself is by owning a gun. I'm tired of being told that I'm naive because I feel that as with any right, comes responsibility and limits. There are limits and responsibilities and dangers attached to all our rights. Requiring one to provide fingerprints and ID's is not only reasonable, but is responsible control for a device specifically manufactured to wound/kill.

 

First off, I - and I'll assume every legitimate gun owner - DO accept the consequences of misuse. It's the criminals that don't seem to care about such consequences and there's really not a good way to regulate them since they don't care much for our laws anyways.

 

Kitchen butcher knives are dangerous objects too. So are chainsaws. So are compound bows. Heck, Twinkies can be dangerous objects too. There is not one healthy thing about a delicious, cream-filled Twinkie. The consequences of stuffing your face full of these tasty things on a regular basis is obesity, high cholesteral, heart disease, maybe even death. Should I expect my government to regulate these also and to require me to pass certain testing and obtain a permit before I am permitted to buy a box? (Just having fun here, but you get my drift).

First off, I - and I'll assume every legitimate gun owner - DO accept the consequences of misuse. It's the criminals that don't seem to care about such consequences and there's really not a good way to regulate them since they don't care much for our laws anyways.

 

Kitchen butcher knives are dangerous objects too. So are chainsaws. So are compound bows. Heck, Twinkies can be dangerous objects too. There is not one healthy thing about a delicious, cream-filled Twinkie. The consequences of stuffing your face full of these tasty things on a regular basis is obesity, high cholesteral, heart disease, maybe even death. Should I expect my government to regulate these also and to require me to pass certain testing and obtain a permit before I am permitted to buy a box? (Just having fun here, but you get my drift).

 

I hate to say it, but the Twinkie comparison only tertiarily fits this discussion at best. You can kill yourself with one, but how many people get murdered with Twinkies or get robbed at Twinkie-point?

I hate to say it, but the Twinkie comparison only tertiarily fits this discussion at best. You can kill yourself with one, but how many people get murdered with Twinkies or get robbed at Twinkie-point?

 

"Death by Twinkie". If I'm going to go, that's the way I'd prefer to do it. :lol:

How do the homicide rates in those countries compare with the U.S.? Just curious...

 

The U.S. has a higher non-gun murder rate than many European country's total murder rates, due simply to population differences.

 

Apples to oranges my friend.

 

http://www.guncite.com/index.html

"Death by Twinkie". If I'm going to go, that's the way I'd prefer to do it. :lol:

 

When I go, I am still determined to be shot by a pacifist so I can laugh at the irony in my last few moments. Oh and to say "I told you it couldn't work."

The U.S. has a higher non-gun murder rate than many European country's total murder rates, due simply to population differences.

 

Apples to oranges my friend.

 

 

He probably means the percentages. Like murders per 100,000 or something

He probably means the percentages. Like murders per 100,000 or something

 

Understood.

 

That site I added has a lot of info.

Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world and it has a much lower murder rate than either the UK or Australia, although it is higher than Japan's rate.

Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world and it has a much lower murder rate than either the UK or Australia, although it is higher than Japan's rate.

 

 

Not only is it high, but it is also almost entirely made of assault rifles.